Thread: October 14, First Contact

Originally Posted by aceofspades

This is 2008. The earth sucks atm. I am pretty sure any alien would be like "F*** That". If they were going to visit us they probably would have done it during the 80s and 70s when the earth was fun

I agree, any aliens that end up visiting earth definitely missed out on the 70s and 80s. Maybe they're just waiting for us to get our shit together more. Right now, I don't think it would be safe at all for aliens to be on our planet. A lot of people would probably try to kill them, or capture them to do tests. Personally, I'd smoke a bowl with them.

And with all these fucking beliefs what will you do.
Will you invest in some more?

Whatsoever exists, exists.
Exist, and still seek to be consoled by another claimed existence?
Madness, no-one can make you whole from self-division.

Stop seeking and the beneficence of existence is this.

I read the website of the woman who started this whole thing, and she doesn't make any reference to 'it might not happen if we don't believe' kind of stuff. According to the aliens she is channeling, it is still definitely happening on the 14th.

Originally Posted by Schmaven

I agree, any aliens that end up visiting earth definitely missed out on the 70s and 80s. Maybe they're just waiting for us to get our shit together more. Right now, I don't think it would be safe at all for aliens to be on our planet. A lot of people would probably try to kill them, or capture them to do tests. Personally, I'd smoke a bowl with them.

On the woman's website she has transcriptions of her 'channeling' sessions. The aliens say that they are not worried about their own safety and have been watching us for awhile. Their reason for coming now is to save us from ourselves before we do irrevocable damage.

this that

Originally Posted by ClouD

And with all these fucking beliefs what will you do.
Will you invest in some more?

Whatsoever exists, exists.
Exist, and still seek to be consoled by another claimed existence?
Madness, no-one can make you whole from self-division.

Stop seeking and the beneficence of existence is this.

True, these super advanced "aliens" come off as...human.... also what's up with the name? "federation of light"? sounds like some type of human made up startrek name.

edit-that reminds me...they say they will be here for 3 days, yet they wont give us what we want...a greeting i presume. If they stay in their ship for 3 days how are they even going to help us do whatever they are going to help us with? they are inside their ship all the time..unless they release something from their ship to make us alittle more enlightenet but that would be considered a hostile attack by the government and all up in arms they will go blasting missles.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I read the website of the woman who started this whole thing, and she doesn't make any reference to 'it might not happen if we don't believe' kind of stuff. According to the aliens she is channeling, it is still definitely happening on the 14th.

I think he ment on youtube.
I saw some video on youtube that said "may" come, but just the 1. The rest all say the 14th. Ohwell, atleast we can't be bored thinking of the LHC to start smashing atoms, we can think of this in the meantime. Laugh at it, and stuff...then say "where is the UFO?" on the 14th and see the person be like "oops i ment October 14th 2009, my bad", then we can focus on the more exciting stuff...the LHC!!!!

The timing is alittle fishy if you ask me.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

True, these super advanced "aliens" come off as...human.... also what's up with the name? "federation of light"? sounds like some type of human made up startrek name.

edit-that reminds me...they say they will be here for 3 days, yet they wont give us what we want...a greeting i presume. If they stay in their ship for 3 days how are they even going to help us do whatever they are going to help us with? they are inside their ship all the time..unless they release something from their ship to make us alittle more enlightenet but that would be considered a hostile attack by the government and all up in arms they will go blasting missles.

a lot of people feel that the American government specifically, would feel any aliens coming here as a threat. or rather, they would transform it into a threat to spread fear so that more taxes can go into the military. . .

after reading the website, the idea I got was to simply 'cruise' around earth. probably get attacked by the government. but not attack back - and this was a way of showing the public that they come in peace. No soldier, no plane, would be harmed in the process. And those generals would have to conclude "they come in peace"

how is not a greeting?? how is not giving what people want??

from the description, this would be world wide news, and world wide disclosure that extraterrestrials are visiting the earth. And they are NOT attacking. that in itself is enough for most.

according to the website, the aliens have been watching us for a very long time. not because they are just curious, but to figure out the best way to perform first contact. that included - understanding the different nations of the world, how they interact, who's in charge. And most of all, how we would react. For example, would we then tell the aliens "FIX OUR PROBLEMS!" when it isn't their problem or obligation to fix anything??

an intelligent race that has respect for another race would then, respect the leadership and sovereignty of that race. For first contact in america for example, we would eventually have to see the aliens shake hands with the president. because this to americans, would be the highest sign that peaceful first contact has been made to americans.

why isn't this happening yet? for many reasons. Who says just because aliens shake the hands of a president, that any american will ever know about it? There are many reasons why the government would keep this secret. And one of those reasons is religious.

And we all know how religion has infiltrated into the White House. Imagine what the President would have to say to all those fundies "um....there is life in the universe" when according to fundamentalism, there isnt.

Again, if we are holding that these aliens are sentient intelligent, peaceful space age civilization. Then they would have respect for 'differences'. Because any space age civilization can only expect the next race to be 'different'. They would not think it is their right to cause mass panic. If a civilization ISN'T MENTALLY READY to behold the sight of another race, then it would be disrespectful to cause mass panic.

Religion is partly the reason why such extraterrestrials would avoid such first contact. And many religious fanatics are convinced, ANY AND ALL ET'S MUST BE, DEMONS in disguises. There is much more to this demonic view of ETs, including the media, horror movies, and hoaxed demonic alien abductions. That's another topic, but there are people in the world today who really want us to think any and all ETs are just out to get us. Regardless of your religion. The Disclosure Project talks about these hoaxes and the aims of the humans behind them. The aliens would know about these hoaxes, and would have to first fight all misconceptions about aliens that we hold.

The other reason why they don't want to just come out, and 'shake the hand of the president' is because, after watching us they know how destructive and violent governments are. Not necessarily the masses. They know, that many governments would then be interested in alien technology, simply to build destructive weapons. These technologies, which are meant to be peaceful and can end poverty, can be transformed into global devastating weapons. Simply put, THEY DO NOT TRUST OUR GOVERNMENTS. And do not trust to make first contact with those ruling governments of the world, or give them ANYTHING. We are cave men in light of their technology, it can destroy us if we continue to act stupid and war!!

No sentient intelligent species would give humanity anything. Because anything that they give us can be turned into a weapon. Even the cure to cancer, im sure we would be able to transform that into a horrible biological weapon!! We first have to prove to that alien race, we are a peaceful people. . . . So any expectations you have an an intelligent race descending say "HEY HUMANITY, I EXIST. HERE IS YOUR CURE TO CANCER! MUCH LOVE" forget it!!!

These aliens know all about those hollywood movies with nothing but demonic aliens. They have a lot working against them. Including a very large complex UFO COMMUNITY, who many believe aliens are just here to hack us up into pieces and anal probe us. Many big time alien believers actually, don't welcome aliens.

While I am not saying I believe in october 14, 2008, I think the plan behind it is very smart. Any smart alien would know, of all things, not to trust the american government. Any smart alien would know, how controlled the media is, and how easy it is to lie to the masses. Any smart alien would know, how many people would simply say "SATAN, SATAN!!".

I mean, look how many people are terrified at the image of the 'grey'? If they do turn out to look like greys, do you think people would welcome them with open arms, or recoil in disgust??

Again, according to the website, this would be a ship larger than ever seen before. That is a reference to the UFO community, and what the UFO community has documented as the largest UFOs seen. And the largest UFOs seen in that community were able to cover the entire night sky from an observer on the ground. So we are talking about a ship larger than that. Massive enough to be witnessed by millions at a single time!!!. . in other words. . . DISCLOSURE.

You can call the channeler crazy. But what I enjoy about this prophesy is its honesty and how out in the open the event is. It's not like in the past where a channeler would be "uh, yeah, you can meet aliens. . .in my backyard, in privacy, and it'll cost you $1000". This event can not be hoaxed, and it will not cost a penny. It either is going to happen, or it isn't. . .

If it does not happen then it's all in that persons head that aliens were coming all this time. Anyway, i think it's great the government are keeping (if they are) the existance of aliens secret, it would cause mass chaos around the globe. We have no idea their intentions, alot of people would be scared and stuff, things like this need to be kept secret untill the humans as a whole
can take these things imo.

edit- They wanna enlighten us, but what does that mean for our science? does that mean we stop any and all science? are we supposed to live off our feelings and love etc? love does not make computers.

This has to be fake, they are charging $15 to buy the transcript from all the conversations between goodchild and the federation of light. Come on, you wanna spread the word but expect people to buy your guys conversation? fuckin scammers i bet.

They need the money to pay the... uhm... "channeling tax".

Scamlets ~ From the people who brought you fractally wrong and the mcleroy beam

I'm gonna settle this thread once and for all.

Channelers are SCAM ARTISTS. Any well trained actor can pretend to Channel. That channeler charges 15 dollars a transcribe. Well the wacko I'm about to show you charges $500 an hour on the phone. The sad thing is. people are dumb enough to fall for it.

Originally Posted by ranma187

I'm gonna settle this thread once and for all.

Channelers are SCAM ARTISTS. Any well trained actor can pretend to Channel. That channeler charges 15 dollars a transcribe. Well the wacko I'm about to show you charges $500 an hour on the phone. The sad thing is. people are dumb enough to fall for it.

but I dont understand what would be the scam in this case?

what is the scam?

im convinced the channeler believes in her date, since I don't see how she can hoax a massive UFO sighting.

the best you can do is say she is mentally ill, but not a scammer.

Originally Posted by ranma187

I'm gonna settle this thread once and for all.

Channelers are SCAM ARTISTS. Any well trained actor can pretend to Channel. That channeler charges 15 dollars a transcribe. Well the wacko I'm about to show you charges $500 an hour on the phone. The sad thing is. people are dumb enough to fall for it.

OMG it is like white noise...

Originally Posted by juroara

but I dont understand what would be the scam in this case?

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

they are charging $15 to buy the transcript from all the conversations between goodchild and the federation of light.

Question asked and answered.

First off. You seem to know all about what you think is true about things you don't believe in. Second Just because something predicted doesn't happen won't mean you can label everyone discredited new age when it suits you.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

First off. You seem to know all about what you think is true about things you don't believe in. Second Just because something predicted doesn't happen won't mean you can label everyone discredited new age when it suits you.

No but it can mean that yet another extraordinary claim will have 0 evidence behind their claims...

The continuous non-evidence of these extraordinary claims is enough to write it off as lies...

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

First off. You seem to know all about what you think is true about things you don't believe in. Second Just because something predicted doesn't happen won't mean you can label everyone discredited new age when it suits you.

No, you cannot discredit everyone, 1 person does not equal a whole, but we can discredit her if it does not happen.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I think he ment on youtube.

I know, I was just saying that the original source still says definitely the 14th, meaning that the ones that are saying it might not happen are just trying to cover the collective ass of the fake hippy psychic crowd.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

No, you cannot discredit everyone, 1 person does not equal a whole, but we can discredit her if it does not happen.

It can discredit many of them, because many of them are jumping on the bandwagon. Since she first came out with the story, a lot of 'channelers' have said "oh I'm channeling aliens too and they say oct. 14 just like her". Honestly, I'm (a little) more inclined to believe the original woman than any of the rest.

Originally Posted by juroara

but I dont understand what would be the scam in this case?

what is the scam?

im convinced the channeler believes in her date, since I don't see how she can hoax a massive UFO sighting.

the best you can do is say she is mentally ill, but not a scammer.

She's trying to spread the word to as many people as she can, but for us to know everything and figure out if this is true or not it will cost us $15. It's a transcript of the conversation, not a book and you need to give your creditcard number "add to cart".


Had a scammer here a few weeks ago at a festival, he and whoever else was involved were good at it too. Police got involved, alot of peopels credit card's were maxed, they vanished without a trace. While they still may not take their creditcard numbers they are still asking for money when they are trying to spread this to everyone (for free), they need your creditcard number for the transaction.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I know, I was just saying that the original source still says definitely the 14th, meaning that the ones that are saying it might not happen are just trying to cover the collective ass of the fake hippy psychic crowd.



It can discredit many of them, because many of them are jumping on the bandwagon. Since she first came out with the story, a lot of 'channelers' have said "oh I'm channeling aliens too and they say oct. 14 just like her". Honestly, I'm (a little) more inclined to believe the original woman than any of the rest.

Well, everyone involved in this who say it's coming you can discredit, but not the people who are not involved. That's what i meant but was bad saying it.

Originally Posted by ranma187

I'm gonna settle this thread once and for all.

Channelers are SCAM ARTISTS. Any well trained actor can pretend to Channel. That channeler charges 15 dollars a transcribe. Well the wacko I'm about to show you charges $500 an hour on the phone. The sad thing is. people are dumb enough to fall for it.

While "Bashar" is bullshit, and a scam artist, he does speak a lot of truth.
This truth should be given away for free and not charged $500+ per session, which is where the scam comes in, but there is much truth nonetheless.

Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence for certainty.
Extraordinary claims with anything less than such evidence must also see a similar decrease in certainty.

So my reading of all this is that there is almost zero certainty, as the claim (extreme beyond nearly anything you could make) has no real evidence.

Originally Posted by juroara

an intelligent race that has respect for another race would then, respect the leadership and sovereignty of that race. For first contact in america for example, we would eventually have to see the aliens shake hands with the president. because this to americans, would be the highest sign that peaceful first contact has been made to americans.

The American intelligent "race" has certainly not respected the leadership of other intelligent "races" leaderships. Would we expect aliens to treat Hitler or Khan with respect?

why isn't this happening yet? for many reasons. Who says just because aliens shake the hands of a president, that any american will ever know about it? There are many reasons why the government would keep this secret. And one of those reasons is religious.

It might not be happening yet because there are no aliens visiting earth and shaking hands with any presidents.

And we all know how religion has infiltrated into the White House. Imagine what the President would have to say to all those fundies "um....there is life in the universe" when according to fundamentalism, there isnt.

Why is America the only nation being courted? I would imagine aliens would find the most advanced government and go there first to make a point. So, I haven't seen any aliens in Sweden lately

after watching us they know how destructive and violent governments are. Not necessarily the masses.

Who exactly is it that is enabling these representative governments then?

I mean, look how many people are terrified at the image of the 'grey'? If they do turn out to look like greys, do you think people would welcome them with open arms, or recoil in disgust??

Who is terrified by the grays other than people supposedly abducted by them and dyslexic Evangelicals? They're small. We could beat them up. Ergo we are not scared by them, only their technology. It's the predator ones we're scared of, but we have Arnold to save us from them.