Thread: Population Control

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

Why is population a problem?

Populations are only a problem when they are dysfunctional.

Right, so how do we make this population functional? I'm opposed to redistribution of wealth, but what are the options?

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

Right, so how do we make this population functional? I'm opposed to redistribution of wealth, but what are the options?

Offer $200 to anybody who gets a vasectomy or tubal ligation. The dysfuncional will jump to that like dogs to leftover steak and stop reproducing.

But then you're basically giving a vasectomy to everyone who lives ina 1st world country and isn't being limited by their religious beliefs, geographical locations and other issues. You're saying, "Hey poor people! If you want money, just sterilize yourself!"

So only rich people, and people from buttfuck, egypt that aren't connected to this information, continue to breed.

And I wasn't talking about lowering the population, if we lower it with bribery it'll just shoot back up again later when the rich people's ratrded little brats start fucking each other. I was talking about fixing the problem as a whole, the real problem. The amount of people we have is not creating starvation, it's just that for people to maintain a sense of status and power they have to control assets and continue to make them scarce so the rest of the world as to fight and compete for these assets.

Food could be free, and it could feed everyone, there is no need for food to cost anything, there's enough of it to feed the world over several times, for everyone alive to eat 30 meals a day. It's made scarce so the producers can maintain power.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

But then you're basically giving a vasectomy to everyone who lives ina 1st world country and isn't being limited by their religious beliefs, geographical locations and other issues. You're saying, "Hey poor people! If you want money, just sterilize yourself!"

So only rich people, and people from buttfuck, egypt that aren't connected to this information, continue to breed.

I don't want the offer to lure in every poor person. I just want it to lure in those who are too irresponsible to raise children well, and it would help with population control too. I am not out to intice all poor people into giving up their reproductive ability. We need poor people because we need bus boys and janitors, etc., and I was poor for a large part of my childhood and for a long time in my adulthood. If it turned out that every poor person out there started trying to give up their reproductive potential for a mere $200, I would want it to be called off.

So just the drunkards then?

Originally Posted by tommo

So just the drunkards then?

No. There are lots of other debilitating drugs, and there are lots of sober people who are way too irresponsible and trashy to raise children the way children need to be raised.

Juroara, I partially agree with you.

I agree that the world can support a large human population. Not so sure about the "rich people telling the world we need less people" part.

Russia, for example, has a huge untapped areas that could be used for agriculture. Also, Africa could also support itself with today's genetically engineered crops, but apparently when the United States sent over a bunch, they were denied because the government thought the crops would be "unhealthy".

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

Right, so how do we make this population functional? I'm opposed to redistribution of wealth, but what are the options?

a lot of people are against it because they feel 'their' money is being given to someone else who is less deserving

but lets look at min. wage.

min. wage no longer functions. the purpose of min. wage was to ensure that if you worked, you will live above poverty. Now min. wage can't afford anything else other than poverty. And some people try to change the reason behind min. wage to - having cheap teenage labor. And since teenagers don't need to live on their own, its okay if min. wage can't afford any sort of home anyways.

other people argue that raising min. wage to a living standard is bad, because businesses don't have the money

businesses don't have money if enough people aren't buying their goods

people can't buy goods, if they are poor!

so that logic is circular. when people have money they will buy even the most worthless crap

I dont think its necessarily right to take a hard working mans income and give it to someone probably less skilled and educated

buuuuuuttt, a lot of people working min. wage, are actually working for huge multi million dollar businesses!! Why can't these businesses afford to pay their employees more? They can. They're just greedy.

And we've seen this greediness in CEOs, who make more than any human in a natural life time will ever need

I support redistribution of wealth in the respect that CEOs have taken money that isn't theirs. It belongs to the employees below them, and we should do something to make sure that money is given back to them

its not just min. wage that hasn't adjust for inflation, almost all middle class wages are worth less than what they should be. That wealth needs to be redistributed back to who it rightfully belongs to, the middle class

I'm all down for capping the income level of CEOs, especially when their employees make less and less and less and less....