Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
What fight has there been between "Israelis" (which was a non-existent nationality before 1948) before the 1948 Palestine war? Unless of course when you say Israelis you mean {a group of people} and when you saw Palestinians you mean {another group of people} and when you say 'what is happening now' you mean {are fighting over a holy land}, in which case I agree.
Israel is ancient. It just didn't become a nation until 1948.

The land that is being fought over now has been fought over for an outrageously long time by Jews and Muslims.

Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
Anyone who thinks "things have always been like this" must also be a holocaust denier.
Why? I assume you are talking about the holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis. That is a strong example of how lunatic the world was more than 60 years ago, and it further illustrates my point. Things are not suddenly screwed up now. They have been for a long time. The holocaust in Europe that ended 64 years ago was by no means the first holocaust. People have been wiping out larg populations for as long as there have been large populations. Human society has always been screwed up.

Quote Originally Posted by Licity View Post
It's always been like this.

Only this time, there's an audience.
Bottom line.