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    1. 01-28-2009 04:29 AM #26
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      But it is guaranteed that one of two people is going to win. The other people might as well not even be on the ballot.
      Self-fulfilling prophecy. That's a very stupid reason to cast aside the right to representation.

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      We call it a two party system because a third party will never win.
      Orly?
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    2. 01-28-2009 05:14 AM #27
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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Self-fulfilling prophecy. That's a very stupid reason to cast aside the right to representation.
      It is not even a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are not even enough people who want a third party candidate to win to come close to matching the number of people who want Republicrats to win. I don't want it that way, but it is in fact that way. Is it not?

      Edit: I don't think the third party candidates should not have the right to be on the ballot. I just think they are worthless. Sad but true.
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    3. 01-28-2009 05:36 AM #28
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      It is not even a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are not even enough people who want a third party candidate to win to come close to matching the number of people who want Republicrats to win. I don't want it that way, but it is in fact that way. Is it not?

      Edit: I don't think the third party candidates should not have the right to be on the ballot. I just think they are worthless. Sad but true.
      Worthless? Hardly. I guarantee if, for example, the media payed more attention to Ron Paul and gave him the same amount of coverage as they did with others (Obama for example), he would have been a serious competitor.

      During election season, each network should make an attempt to give each candidate equal air time. This will never happen, but we can dream.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BLUELINE976 View Post
      This will never happen
      At least not for a long time. I don't think the Republicrats will be in power forever. We have had other major political parties, like the Whig Party, but it has been a while.
      You are dreaming right now.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      At least not for a long time. I don't think the Republicrats will be in power forever. We have had other major political parties, like the Whig Party, but it has been a while.
      I think Monroe was the last Whig? I don't remember.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BLUELINE976 View Post
      I think Monroe was the last Whig? I don't remember.
      Millard Fillmore. I just Googled it and saw that the party lost its high level of power in 1856. Maybe in another century and a half we can have a president who doesn't suck.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Millard Fillmore. I just Googled it and saw that the party lost its high level of power in 1856. Maybe in another century and a half we can have a president who doesn't suck.
      But Ron Paul won't be alive then lol
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      But it is guaranteed that one of two people is going to win. The other people might as well not even be on the ballot.
      Exactly why I called it a two party system.
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      Even though the Whigs were government loving pricks. I could count the few presidents that did not suck on my fingers
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