Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
We haven't liberated anyone since WWII. We lost Vietnam, we didn't do shit in Desert Storm, and Iraq is just as dangerous now as it was in 1998. No one said that Bush was going to directly do anything, but his aggression and stupidity destabilized the already unstable middle east. Reality is that he was dangerous, stupid, and didn't give a shit about international laws or morals. Your view is very ethnocentric.
Ethnocentric? You pulled that one right out of the ole left wing ass. Uh, your view is very oriented toward sex with farm animals.

We pulled out of Vietnam too early but outdid them militarily many times over, we liberated Kuwait in Desert Storm (That isn't shit???????), and Iraq now has a democracy and the people have rights, unlike before. We liberated Afghanistan just eight years ago. Democracy in the heart of the Middle East gives a great deal of hope for their future and ours.

My points that you did not counter still stand.

Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
The Geneva Convention explicitly forbids the torturing of prisoners of war. They worded it very carefully and there is no area. The US violated the Geneva Convention.
I am sure you are talking about waterboarding, which I have told you many times before is only the threat of torture and is a threat that can be called off by giving up necessary information that saves innocent lives. We have only waterboarded three people. My heart aches for the poor terrorists.