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The U.N. inspectors had such good psychic ability that they could detect the nonexistence of weapons? How did they do that? Not finding something proves its nonexistence? Going on intelligence from the Clinton Administration, the Senate (Democrats included), the CIA, and five other governments is "lying"?
Uh... during the Clinton administration there were WMDs in Iraq, they didn't finish dismantling them until 1998. What other governments were those? Every other government agreed with the UN, which was the reason that no one fully backed the US in the war.

I was "brainwashed" into liking McDondalds? What I remember is eating their food when I was about two years old and loving it.
a 2 year old is weak minded, doing really good advertising on a weak minded person is essentially the definition of brainwashing

So, what exactly are you proposing? Do you want to ban tobacco and transfat?
Um... trans fats are illegal. And yes. People always bitch that using corn for ethanol will create a food shortage. Corn and Tobacco thrive in the exact same climate. One is essentially poison, the other is alternative energy. I don't see the dilemma.

The more money the rich have, the more people they are going to hire. Do you deny that?
No, as I've said many times, the rich do not create jobs, their companies do, and the companies have a completely separate tax code. And no, having more money creates more low paid jobs and higher revenues, most of which goes into the salaries of the top 5% of the company. Conservative philosophy on business taxes is like playing chess and thinking one move ahead, whereas liberal business philosophy is like playing chess and thinking 5 moves ahead.

Higher taxes on the corporations creates tax breaks for the middle class (which ist he driving force of the economy). The middle class will then spend more, which goes back into the companies, which then increases their revenues, which in turn creates more jobs. No one is denying that companies having more money creates jobs, but giving it to them, while taxing the middle class more steeply creates a bottleneck.

The fact that greed is one of the major forces of people is the principle behind capitalism and a fact totally overlooked by socialism.
And capitalism. Trickle down economics does not work because of it.

There was a tax increase?
College students paid taxes for the first time in American history. The federal tax rate jumped 14% in Bush's 2nd term and the debt continued to skyrocket. Did you forget that or did you watch Fox the whole time and never heard of it? You do realize that the national debt will eventually have to be paid off right? Obama will raise taxes. Don't blame him though, every liberal in the world told you that a runaway military budget would eventually cause a tax hike. Who does it is irrelevant, it's paying for Bush's war, it's Bush's tax hike. You keep dodging this question: Where do you think the military's money comes from?

Why do you ignore Barney Frank and Maxine Waters' pressure to lower loan standards? That is the main problem at the root of the mess. Do you even acknowledge its existence? AIG and other companies at the top of the economy suffered tremendously because people who should not have gotten loans in the first place could not pay back their loans. When the top falls, the whole system starts crumbling, hence the bailouts. Right?
Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act? It was passed by the Clinton administration and it gave loans to poor people... with a low interest rate, so that it could be paid off. And people below a certain point could not qualify, or would be helped by the government. Bush's congress kept the part about giving loans to poor people, but took away the interest rate cap, the government aid, and the restrictions of who qualified. Barney Frank supported the bailout, he doesn't know shit about economics. Bailouts don't work, but neither do placing high interest rates on people who can't afford them.