Thread: Do people really think like this?

Demon,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUZzyhtUrY

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...256A1000122122

Oh yes, and Exhalent, you can't just say that you're transgendered to give a criminal a more harsh punishment. You have to be able to prove that they committed a crime in the first place because of your gender identity/sexual orientation.

Also, if a man kills his wife out of rage because she had an affair, and another man kills his wife because she's a woman, which one do you think is more dangerous?

Originally Posted by Liz

Demon,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUZzyhtUrY

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...256A1000122122

You called Merlock 'Demon' and then you go and post a Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You might be a 'licensed mental health clinician with decades of practice' but I'll wager you don't know damn thing about what makes me tick or what my buttons are. You might as well be a politician or a professional video gamer if you're going to claim you understand our minds.

Careful there!

Clearly you didn't notice that someone called Demon Parasite is also posting in this thread. Next time maybe be a bit more careful .

Originally Posted by ifuturist

You called Merlock 'Demon' and then you go and post a Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You might be a 'licensed mental health clinician with decades of practice' but I'll wager you don't know damn thing about what makes me tick or what my buttons are. You might as well be a politician or a professional video gamer if you're going to claim you understand our minds.

Uh, "Demon" short for "Demon Parasite", my username.

lol.

and that guy isnt even here for the lucid dreaming. he has never posted in the lucid dreaming section at all. he must have registered to say something about something, im assuming the "should marijuana be legal" thread, that is the one he has posted in most.

but on the subject of this thread, i hate homophobics (am i alright to use that word lol)

Originally Posted by slash112

lol.

and that guy isnt even here for the lucid dreaming. he has never posted in the lucid dreaming section at all. he must have registered to say something about something, im assuming the "should marijuana be legal" thread, that is the one he has posted in most.

but on the subject of this thread, i hate homophobics (am i alright to use that word lol)

Apparently he lurked enough to know Liz's profession, but not not my name, lol.

Originally Posted by ifuturist

You called Merlock 'Demon' and then you go and post a Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

This part made me lul. I wish he would stick around. He's funny.

Originally Posted by Merlock

Conflict is perfectly sensible as long as there is good reason for it.

Originally Posted by Merlock

You can assume all you want, but that won't make you right, and won't make me explain anything.
If you dislike what I stand for, I'm your enemy, it's that simple.
No explanations needed. Face value. Etc.

So you're basically saying that conflict is fine as long as there's a good reason, but people shouldn't have to tell anyone what that good reason is. Then they might as well not have a good reason.

Besides, what's the point of discussing something if you refuse to give reasons for what you're saying? You won't convince anyone that way.

For example:
"I hate Pokemon! It should be banned from everything!"
"What's wrong with Pokemon?"
"I don't have to explain my reasons to anyone!!!"
"..........."

I thought you meant about medical people thinking it of a mental disorder. I thought seemed a bit dumb for them to think of such a thing as transgender to be thought of a mental disorder. Ludacris I tells yah!

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

Oh yes, and Exhalent, you can't just say that you're transgendered to give a criminal a more harsh punishment.

Where did this come from? What I was saying is that these new laws in effect can be abused. My point is, no special groups should ever be covered in said "hate crime" laws, because by law they are already equal to everyone else. It just disrupts the system and causes overcomplication.

I was too lazy to read this but I think it's about something similar to what you guys are talking about. Enjoy!

http://www.genderpsychology.org/

Originally Posted by Exhalent

Where did this come from? What I was saying is that these new laws in effect can be abused. My point is, no special groups should ever be covered in said "hate crime" laws, because by law they are already equal to everyone else. It just disrupts the system and causes overcomplication.

You were saying that the law could be abused by you pretending to be gay or trans to add to your case. You can't do that, though.

Why can't I dislike a person that is gay/trans, but for reasons other than that? The jury doesn't have to take my word for it. Just like if a white and a black person fought (respectively), it would be hate crime even if race had nothing to do with it. I still see no legitimate reason for laws like these since everyone is already covered, otherwise I would change my mind.

Social, not judicial

ha ha, I just want to say for all the people that are scared of the opposite sex bathrooms....from where I am from a bathroom is a bathroom regardless of what gender is posted on the door....if it is open anyone can use any washroom...some places here have one bathroom for both sexes...gosh whoda thought! I do find it ridiculous that transgendered seem to think they need a washroom of their own though

I agree with Merlock that he doesn't have to explain his feelings about anything. His feelings are still valid.

But in terms of rational discussion, Merlock's feelings absolutely irrelevant.

My Student's Union had a lot of on-going transgender discrimination issues. It always shocked me how otherwise reasonable people saw this as such a big deal.

The problem with the bathroom issue in this country is that by law transgrendered people have to spend a certain amount of time living as a woman in order to have the surgery. If they can't use the correct toilet before surgery then they can't fulfil this criteria.