Thread: Possible MANDATORY Swine flu vaccine in the US/UK/Greece..etc

This is quite frankly stupid. You could be forgiven for thinking swine flu is the most lethal virus ever discovered with this media hype.

As for accelerating the deployment without adequate safety testing, that is foolish beyond extreme. We have these procedures in place for a reason, and the danger posed does not offset the risk in this case.

The fact that there will be mandatory vaccinations for a virus that has killed 800 people worldwide yet hyped up to be some terrible plague is suspicious enough as is. The fact that many of the vaccines will contain mercury and squalene...forget about it. This is absolutely rediculous. If this information is true, I will not be gettign this vaccine

Oh c'mon people, it's just a fuggin vaccine. Now stop worrying, and go live your life.

The vaccine will kill more then the virus itself.. Not to mention all the allergic reactions of those who it hasn't killed.

That bit about governments having immunity from being held responsible for their actions was the part that really got me.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Oh c'mon people, it's just a fuggin vaccine. Now stop worrying, and go live your life.

You missed the point.

It is not just a "fugging vaccine" Kromoh, it does in fact contain mercury, it's a mercury solution.

Being aware of the health damage of mercury and then weighted agaist the health risk of getting Influenza A H1N1 the option of not getting the vaccine is logical.

Furthermore, weighting the fatality rate of this virus as 0.05 % against the risk of negative side-efffects of the vaccine which is untested and rushed. The option to take the risk of dying is more logical than the risk of serious side-effects from the vaccine, which is unnessesary for most people anyway.

It is common sense really, common sense is overruled when fear is dominating..

Sources for the mercury part, please. Virus vaccines have no reason on Earth to contain mercury. Perhaps if one of you had taken biology or chemistry classes you'd know it.

Also, yes, the lethality of the virus is not higher than average, but it's contagiousness is extremely high, which causes more deaths. The only possible problem with a bad vaccine is it not immunizing you or it making you sick, both of which are not really lethal when we're talking about the swine flu.

A lot of vaccines contain mercury. They generally say its either in to small of amounts to matter, or that its in a mixture of other stuff that makes it safe.

Ever hear of the 1918 swine flu outbreak? The vaccine did more harm than it did good. And I am not eagerly going to take this vaccination.

Perhaps, a simple google search shall do the trick.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...n_mercury.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/washingt...n-mercury.html

You are quite sure of yourself huh?

1. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...atment-payment

Thiomersal which is a vaccine presertive contains 49% mercury.

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal#Allergies

Thiomersal is used in patch testing for people who have dermatitis, conjunctivitis, and other potentially allergic reactions. A 2007 study in Norway found that 1.9% of adults had a positive patch test reaction to thiomersal;[12] a higher prevalence of contact allergy (up to 6.6%) was observed in German populations.[13] Thiomersal-sensitive individuals can receive intramuscular rather than subcutaneous immunization,[14] so contact allergy is usually clinically irrelevant.[13] Thiomersal allergy has decreased in Denmark, probably because of its exclusion from vaccines there.[15]

It was voted Allergen of the Year in 2002 by the American Contact Dermatitis Society.

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controversy

There we have another aspect to the case, allergy, with quite high percentage in the population.

Another article: http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ury.html?cat=5 (3 pages)


Thimerosal in Vaccines

From the beloved FDA (US. Food and Drug Administration)

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac...fety/UCM096228



"Although WHO reports that a fully licensed vaccine might not be ready until the end of 2009, some experts feel that with "little or no safety data about a swine flu vaccine," governments that are planning to roll out mass campaigns are "taking a gamble," since any rare side effects won't show up until millions of people start getting the shots"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_fl...ic#Vaccination
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/..._vaccine_fight



Happy reading!

eh......I dont even take regular flu shots

my friends sister worked at a clinic where they had a ton of infected people (a border town in texas). but none of the cases were serious, or deadly. I even felt sick around that time and thought I had swine flu. I dont know if I did, if I did all I needed was ginger tea.

When I move out to our Farm, I'm going to start growing my own food.
If I have to, I will remove my kids from public school and homeschool them. Chances are, the State will remove them from my care again, but I WILL NOT willingly subject them or myself to this so-called vaccine.
My husband is a doctor and he has already told me to stay away from it.
According to him (and others here), the dollar is crashing at a terrifying rate, FEMA camps are springing up all over the place and now the government wants to "vaccinate" people against their will if need be? Sounds to me as if they want to cull some of the population.

I read about the mandatory vaccination on the UK parliament website.

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

FEMA camps are springing up all over the place

I once spoke to someone, someone who would know about this kind of thing, a number of years ago, I don't remember exactly what he said, but he said FEMA would be setting up camps throughout the nation, that would basically end up being little more than prisons for the general population.
When you think about it, it almost makes sense that they would want to kill off people - a smaller population is easier to control.

*cough cough* FEMA COFFINS *cough cough*

And all this time I was the one being called a conspiracy theory nutjob, who's got the last laugh now

(hey, its not like I WANTED this to be real, I wish it was a bullshit theory, but apparently its not)

And whoever said about the dollar, it will crash around sept-october

Notice how the government has said were coming out of the recession? CNN even went as far as to say that the recession is over!!!

Yea, the recession may be over, because a inflationary depression is here.


Also, isn't it strange how the World Health Organization has STOPPED TRACKING SWINE FLU NUMBERS:

"due to the rapid spread of the disease we cannot keep up"

I smell bullshit, its more like this to me:

"Due to the tiny amounts of swine flu we chose to not count the new cases or else our hyped up pandemic wont scare you into getting a dangerous vaccine"

I still fail to understand why people who want to control the general population would want to force a dangerous vaccine, when it would weaken everyone except the people who are the real problem, aka the conspiracy theorists who would refuse to take it.

If I were you I wouldn't claim to be right just yet. Like you said it's POSSIBLE it will be mandatory. And I'm sure the testimonials of the people on this site aren't exactly reliable sources, no offense.

Originally Posted by DarkLucideity

I still fail to understand why people who want to control the general population would want to force a dangerous vaccine, when it would weaken everyone except the people who are the real problem, aka the conspiracy theorists who would refuse to take it.

Why would that matter after they've killed off much of the population?

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Why would that matter after they've killed off much of the population?

there's a higher ratio of people who know what's going on.

EDIT: See, I look at it like this: I just assume that the people in charge are at least reasonable and are pretty good at planning. They should know that it would be so much easier to cut down the population after the people who know about it are dead. So, if they know that those people are the only ones who don't take vaccines, they can work with it. Create a deadly virus and a working vaccine for it (I'm not saying swine flu is deadly, it's not and I wouldn't take the vaccine even if the vaccine was safe - I have no underlying health problems). Then, spread rumors that the vaccine is dangerous. The people who take the vaccine survive, but the conspiracy theorists who refuse because they think it's dangerous die of the disease. Now the population is 100% "sheep" and can be destroyed accordingly.

Originally Posted by DarkLucideity

I still fail to understand why people who want to control the general population would want to force a dangerous vaccine, when it would weaken everyone except the people who are the real problem, aka the conspiracy theorists who would refuse to take it.

here is why, according to the bilderberg group scumbags, we are becoming too hard to control, there are too many people to manipulate and brainwash, so their solution is to force vaccinations, not just to murder people...but to cause sickness, immune system weakening, so that they have an easier time managing the population.

Also, once people start resisting vaccines and becoming violent, the government can issue martial law. then it will be extremely easy to control the population via martial law.

By the way, just this past month fema conducted the largest martial law drill in fema's history.

And, the dollar is on the brink of collapse, and black eagle..these aren't opinions or points of view, these are cold-hard facts from the mainstream media itself.

Even cnn and fox are discussing mandatory shots being enforced by the military for our 'own good'

If you fail to wake up and smell the coffee before its too late, then were in trouble

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

If I were you I wouldn't claim to be right just yet. Like you said it's POSSIBLE it will be mandatory. And I'm sure the testimonials of the people on this site aren't exactly reliable sources, no offense.



Why would that matter after they've killed off much of the population?

these 'testimonials' aren't what im basing my post on, if you bothered to look, I have sources and links on the top page, with quotes following them...

These quotes and sources have been discussed on even mainstream media such as the faux news channel, and communist network news (CNN), and even msnbc, the obama loving channel.



The reason to reduce the populace is CONTROL, easier to manipulate a smaller dumber, sicker, more dependant population.

Right now the populace is waking up, and the globalists/bilderbergers/bankers/elites/scumbags are aware of this, which is why this vaccination will indeed become mandatory in most of the planet.

The united states on the other hand, I have a feeling violence will break out if this shot becomes mandatory.

Freedom of choice means i choose what does and DOES NOT enter my godamn body.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

If I were you I wouldn't claim to be right just yet. Like you said it's POSSIBLE it will be mandatory. And I'm sure the testimonials of the people on this site aren't exactly reliable sources, no offense.

I read on the uk parliament website: that anyone who refuses a vaccine will be considered a criminal. It wasn't worded exactly that way. but that was the gist.

Originally Posted by guerilla

here is why, according to the bilderberg group scumbags, we are becoming too hard to control, there are too many people to manipulate and brainwash, so their solution is to force vaccinations, not just to murder people...but to cause sickness, immune system weakening, so that they have an easier time managing the population.

Also, once people start resisting vaccines and becoming violent, the government can issue martial law. then it will be extremely easy to control the population via martial law.

By the way, just this past month fema conducted the largest martial law drill in fema's history.

But aren't there much easier ways to both weaken people and have them revolt?

I am confident I can survive almost anything. Once religion becomes outlawed (or gatherings of any large groups particularly religious in nature)... then I'll become more worried.

The stage has been set. Interesting days are ahead for all of us.

I think it's very interesting that other countries KNOW the US dollar is crap but most Americans haven't realized it.
I just hope the worst of it doesn't hit in the middle of winter. There will be no crops and people who aren't prepared will suffer greatly.

Other than taking some common sense precautions, I still don't like to think about any of this lol
If you speak out about it, your a conspiracy/survivalist/religious nut and worrying about it does no good.

Stocking up on basic goods which can be rotated and used as part of a regular diet is smart though. Buy cast iron cookware, canned goods, soups, powder milk, rice, spaghetti, WATER etc.
Keep at least a 2 month supply on hand at all times but make sure it's stuff you'll eat in case a miracle happens and it's not needed.

As soon as I get to our Farm, I'm going to start stocking up on things. There's an old building used for storage that has a "cellar" which would be perfect for hiding things animals wont get into.

Oh yeah, make sure you have any medication that's critical for your health.