Thread: LSD explained for what it is.

LSD is made up from house hold items including battery acid. That could be why it's also known as acid and why it's so cheap for such a long trip.

LSD is known as "acid" because the chemical name is Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. Its synthesis is an extremely involved process that uses chemicals extracted from ergot and diethylamine.

Battery Acid? That's meth.. Which also contains rat poison..

Please, before we start tossing around "drug A contains X poison," can we look up the actual synthesis route first?

Spoiler for Synthesis Route 1:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Most methods of illicit production involve hydrogenation of the hydroxyl group on the ephedrine or pseudoephedrine molecule. The most common method for small-scale methamphetamine labs in the United States is primarily called the "Red, White, and Blue Process", which involves red phosphorus, pseudoephedrine or ephedrine (white), and blue iodine (which is technically a purple color in elemental form), from which hydroiodic acid is formed. In Australia, criminal groups have been known to substitute "red" phosphorus with either hypophosphorous acid or phosphorous acid.[61] This is a fairly dangerous process for amateur chemists, because phosphine gas, a side-product from in situ hydroiodic acid production, is extremely toxic to inhale.

The only reason it would contain "rat poison" would be to obtain Zinc phosphide for the phosphide ion, and there are better ways of doing that such as breaking off match heads or buying phosphoric acid itself from a welding supply shop. Most rat poisons today contain vitamin K antagonists such as Warfarin anyway.

Maybe the myth was started from the other common synthesis route, which utilizes lithium from lithium ion batteries and anhydrous ammonia. (Which, being a farmer, I know is incredibly difficult to handle safely.)

Spoiler for Synthesis Route 2:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Another common method uses the Birch reduction (also called the "Nagai method"),[62] in which metallic lithium, commonly extracted from non-rechargeable lithium batteries, is substituted for difficult-to-find metallic sodium. However, the Birch reduction is dangerous because the alkali metal and liquid anhydrous ammonia are both extremely reactive, and the temperature of liquid ammonia makes it susceptible to explosive boiling when reactants are added. Anhydrous ammonia and lithium or sodium (Birch reduction) may be surpassing hydroiodic acid (catalytic hydrogenation) as the most common method of manufacturing methamphetamine in the U.S. and possibly in Mexico.

Battery acid?...that cracked me up

So have any of you folks tried DMT or Ayahausca?

i've thought about doing DMT, but waiting for the right inspiration... when it's time to complete the spiritual revolution

and while we are one the topic of methamphetamine.. note that i myself have done plenty of ecstasy, i wouldn't say abused considering i know people who ABUSE it. i like to take it once in a while, just a pill. but the full name of MDMA or ecstasy is
MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine)

is basically the cheapest way of making meth. that being said it is VERY different from meth... just use responsibly if you are going to use it... i know too many people who have holes in their brain, and i know a lot of people who actually grew from doing it.

Haha alright calm down mate!


This is what I was told years ago... But maybe I was too fucked to understand what I was being told!

Originally Posted by WILDlife

Battery acid?...that cracked me up

So have any of you folks tried DMT or Ayahausca?

What exactly does Ayahausca do?

Originally Posted by Motumz

What exactly does Ayahausca do?

It does what DMT does, except it lasts 3-4 hours(ish). The active ingredient is still DMT.

Ayahuasca is essentially DMT made orally active from combining it with an MAOI.

Originally Posted by velinxs

i know too many people who have holes in their brain

Ah, that damn MTv Myth.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_ecsta..._in_your_brain
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shul...brainholes.htm
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...oxicity3.shtml

Originally Posted by Peel

It does what DMT does, except it lasts 3-4 hours(ish). The active ingredient is still DMT.

Ayahuasca is essentially DMT made orally active from combining it with an MAOI.

Damn. So what exactly does someone who is smoking DMT look like? Are they asleep? Or are they seeing the hallucinations and their trip while awake?

Originally Posted by Motumz

Damn. So what exactly does someone who is smoking DMT look like? Are they asleep? Or are they seeing the hallucinations and their trip while awake?

basically asleep, they pretty much go into a trance

Originally Posted by JamesLD

basically asleep, they pretty much go into a trance

Daang, that just makes DMT look like an even more mysterious drug in my opinion..

Originally Posted by Motumz

Daang, that just makes DMT look like an even more mysterious drug in my opinion..

oh definitely, its the craziest psychedelic known to man.

Originally Posted by JamesLD

oh definitely, its the craziest psychedelic known to man.

And I'll have it in my possession in the next couple of weeks! Apparently it will be around 100mg's. So that should be go for 2 - 3 trips. Hopefully I will smoke it right..

But also, I need to prepare myself. Would you have any techniques for doing so? Like meditation ect.

Originally Posted by Motumz

And I'll have it in my possession in the next couple of weeks! Apparently it will be around 100mg's. So that should be go for 2 - 3 trips. Hopefully I will smoke it right..

But also, I need to prepare myself. Would you have any techniques for doing so? Like meditation ect.

Do you mean milligrams (mg) or micrograms (µg)? 100 milligrams of LSD is a helluva lot of acid because most doses are literally a thousand times less than what you claim you'll get.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD#Dosage

I lol'd at the battery acid thing.

Originally Posted by Odd_Nonposter

The only reason it would contain "rat poison" would be to obtain Zinc phosphide for the phosphide ion, and there are better ways of doing that such as breaking off match heads or buying phosphoric acid itself from a welding supply shop.

Good post, but the only wrong thing is phosphorous is found in the striker on the matchbox not the match heads. Unless you don't buy safety matches, and I'm not sure whether the non-safety matches are even available anymore.

Originally Posted by Odd_Nonposter

Do you mean milligrams (mg) or micrograms (µg)? 100 milligrams of LSD is a helluva lot of acid because most doses are literally a thousand times less than what you claim you'll get.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD#Dosage

I think he was talking about DMT.

BTW the links are dead. I'm assuming this is the documentary Inside LSD?
Sorry I haven't read most of the thread.

Yes, I was talking about DMT (crystals). Also, if anyone needs the video just message me. I uploaded it to a fast hoster if anyone else needs the video.

The videos OP posted are down. Does anyone know somewhere else to see them? They looked interesting.

Part 1:

Code:

http://hotfile.com/dl/18470981/dab4c0f/National.Geographic.Explorer.Inside.LSD.2009.WS.HDTV.XviD-OMiCRON.2ebe.DedicatedTV.net.part1.rar.html

Part 2:

Code:

http://hotfile.com/dl/18471295/7882694/National.Geographic.Explorer.Inside.LSD.2009.WS.HDTV.XviD-OMiCRON.2ebe.DedicatedTV.net.part2.rar.html

Enjoy! !

It's kind of like this:

Originally Posted by dajo

It's kind of like this:

I kind of see the LSD user sitting and leaning against the tree thinking, and then they should have another one where he is on shrooms and he is hugging the tree

Since the videos posted in the OP are down and the discussion as turned into a who's done what thread, I'm closing this.

Ska, (or anyone else) if you can find links to those videos, let me know and I'll fire it up again.

Edit: Motumz kindly informed me that he already posted new links to the vids so I put them in the OP; Thread Revived!

Oh yeahthey seem to get systematically deleted by corrupted Youtube due to Copywrite greed of National Geographic.

Allthough if you search youtube for "Inside LSD" you will find it there. All 5 parts. 'Cause as systematicly as youtube-folks are deleting it, other youtube members systematicly re-upload it.
Hoorray for the interweb.

Originally Posted by SKA

Oh yeahthey seem to get systematically deleted by corrupted Youtube due to Copywrite greed of National Geographic.

Allthough if you search youtube for "Inside LSD" you will find it there. All 5 parts. 'Cause as systematicly as youtube-folks are deleting it, other youtube members systematicly re-upload it.
Hoorray for the interweb.

Orrrrrrr you can just go the National Geographic website and watch it on there.

Spoiler for me whining (feel free to ignore this entirely as it is completely irrelevant:

which i'd like to say for the record i posted way before the person who got credit for posting links to it did, but i don't want to sound like a whiny bitch or whatever but i wanted to whine so i figured by putting spoiler tags around this. i guess it would just be nice to get a thank you or something. just needed to get that out.

just stopping in to make sure this thread isn't turning out to be one of those "psychedelic drugs are good for you" things.

remember that they cause brain damage and can give you psychosis and trigger schizophrenia. and a number of other mental problems which you don't want.

don't do drugs kay? they bad.

Originally Posted by Tarsier

just stopping in to make sure this thread isn't turning out to be one of those "psychedelic drugs are good for you" things.

remember that they cause brain damage and can give you psychosis and trigger schizophrenia. and a number of other mental problems which you don't want.

don't do drugs kay? they bad.

Hahaha, okay mom!