Thread: Would You Accept a Murderer?

If they killed someone for a good reason, then I would probably accept them. However, if they were a serial killer, or just killed on a random impulse, then I would probably not accept them.

I would never reject them. I believe all that is harmful comes from either lack of knowledge, fear, or mental issues. Calling it evil I consider as well the consequence of either lack of knowledge, fear, or mental issue!

How would I react, that I don't know for sure, it depends on absolutely every factor of the situation. But I know I wouldn't turn my back on the person I loved couple of minutes before.

Originally Posted by Luanne

I would never reject them. I believe all that is harmful comes from either lack of knowledge, fear, or mental issues. Calling it evil I consider as well the consequence of either lack of knowledge, fear, or mental issue!

It's good that so many people consider it "evil". That puts such a bad stigma on people who murder that it prevents a lot of murder from happening. Society should passionately reject people who murder. The rejection serves a great purpose.

There are some people I will love no matter what, but that does not mean they will be my friends no matter what. I can't be friends with somebody who ever murdered without just cause. That does not mean I would completely not care about them, though.

I can say there is only one person I think I would not reject if they murdered without a cause. For others it depends on the circumstances of the murder, excluding murder for self defense, that I would accept.

We seems to praise soldiers. They are murderers. Same with politicians, although its more indirect.

Who praises soldiers? Not around here we don't, they get the same amount of respect as the people who ran the war.

And it depends on why they did the murder. If it was the father from "A Time to Kill," then of course I would. Murder is sometimes just, most of the time it isn't.

Depends on who they killed and why.

Murder implies a sense of wrong doing, so it may depend on the situation but in most cases, I would reject them. If you kill someone you shouldn't hide it. If it was just, such as in self defense, then there is no reason to hide it.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Who praises soldiers? Not around here we don't, they get the same amount of respect as the people who ran the war.

Im not sure what you mean by this.

anyways, most people have said it already. self defense, etc. I would not reject them. If it was on impulse...I would still care for them but I would want them to seek help.

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

We seems to praise soldiers. They are murderers. Same with politicians, although its more indirect.

Only when we think what they did was for the greater good. Sometimes not fighting would result in a whole lot more death than fighting. What if Hitler had been ignored?

Originally Posted by Luanne

It's good that murder is considered 'bad'. But the word 'evil' and the often religious, excessive meaning behind it, has the complete opposite effect than what you're saying. And I'm not just talking about murders. Because it is 'evil' there is no point in providing help and education. Because it is 'evil' our anger toward the 'evil person' grows and all we think about is revenge. Because it is 'evil' we don't want any good to that person, cause they don't deserve it! It's excessive, it is wrong and it puts, like you said, a bad stigma. But it seems we have different views on what that particular bad stigma does.

I don't want unjustifiable killers to have help and education. I want them dead or at least miserable. They alienated my support by doing what they did.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Only when we think what they did was for the greater good. Sometimes not fighting would result in a whole lot more death than fighting. What if Hitler had been ignored?

Godwin's Law has been achieved

Murder can only be justified in self-defense.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Only when we think what they did was for the greater good. Sometimes not fighting would result in a whole lot more death than fighting. What if Hitler had been ignored?

I suppose. If there were any competent assassins back then Hilter would have died way before America had to intervene. If Hitler alone died the whole thing would have crumbled very quickly after that.

yes, I would, regardless of the details. I would also accept a stranger who kills someone I care about.

when I say accept, I mean forgive. not saying they should go without a just punishment. (this probably should have been clarified in the OP..)

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I don't want unjustifiable killers to have help and education. I want them dead or at least miserable. They alienated my support by doing what they did.

I wouldn't expect this response from you. you must believe in free will?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

It's good that so many people consider it "evil". That puts such a bad stigma on people who murder that it prevents a lot of murder from happening.

It's good that murder is considered 'bad'. But the word 'evil' and the often religious, excessive meaning behind it, has the complete opposite effect than what you're saying. And I'm not just talking about murders. Because it is 'evil' there is no point in providing help and education. Because it is 'evil' our anger toward the 'evil person' grows and all we think about is revenge. Because it is 'evil' we don't want any good to that person, cause they don't deserve it! It's excessive, it is wrong and it puts, like you said, a bad stigma. But it seems we have different views on what that particular bad stigma does.

There are some people I will love no matter what, but that does not mean they will be my friends no matter what. I can't be friends with somebody who ever murdered without just cause. That does not mean I would completely not care about them, though.

I agree on this. I don't know whether I would be able to stay close friends with that certain person. All I know, I wouldn't turn my back on them, I would try to understand (not to approve) why they did it, and I certainly wouldn't consider them 'evil'.

And the question of just cause is so complex, especially considering we would be extremely emotional and shaken in that situation, it could easily mess our rational thinking.