 Originally Posted by Marvo
Humans have always had a desire for labeling everything. Not much we can do about it 
Yeap. I suppose so. But couldn't they at least get the labels right? xD
 Originally Posted by Philosopher8659
A wise man once said that we learn by experience, everything. One of the ways in which to engage in false discourse is to use words in a non-conventional manner, i.e. which means it is not language at all. For example, is there such a thing as other peoples's ideals? That is about as intelligent as a history of 'Euclidean' Geometry. Is it holy because it is loved by the gods, or is it loved by the gods because it is holy?
Mystics use false modifiers.
Is it possible to have a convention, a standard, an ideal, of the non-conventionalizable (there that word is again), the non-standardizable (oops), the non-idealizable (double oops!). Who else is in YOUR head?
I'm sorry, but I really don't understand much of what you're saying. I'm sorry o_ O
Except that I definitely agree with the fact that using words wrong is really bad. This is happening to so many words when it comes to sexuality. Just look at the word "pedophile" and "pedophilia". Pretty much everyone who uses that word has no idea what it really means.
And maybe I used the word "ideal" wrong, for that I am sorry. I guess what I thought of was "perfect". Some people think that one thing is the ideal (perfect), and others think something else. Hitler, for example, seemed to think that blonde, blue-eyed, tall people were the perfect men (ideal). In the same way, you can say that Heterosexuality is the ideal (the perfect, the non-flawed, the state in which you want to be).
But guess what? Not everyone is Hitler, and not everyone is You. So yes, there is a thing like other people's ideals.
# conforming to an ultimate standard of perfection or excellence; embodying an ideal
# the idea of something that is perfect; something that one hopes to attain
EDIT: hint: perfection is relative
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