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    Thread: Any known cases of people going psychotic/mental from dreaming?

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      I always treat it like a dream unless proven otherwise. This is why my mantra isn't a question of my reality, but a statement. I am dreaming.

      I have yet to do something retarded in waking. People always say to make sure before doing something crazy or violent or reckless, but has there ever been an LD related injury ever? In a dream I have double checked before jumping out of a moving car, but I have never almost done something stupid in waking and stopped because I checked. I only find myself double checking when in a dream, so if I ever double check I know already that I am in a dream.

      I'd like to hear others ideas on this specifically. It isn't someone going mental, but it is something that could be considered going mental for a second.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Laurelindo View Post
      Yeah, just because someone experiences a slightly unusual event it doesn't suddenly mean that they are definitely dreaming.
      One should always make absolutely sure that it is a dream before doing crazy things.

      In my opinion, one of the best reality checks is to try jumping above the tree-tops - and staying in the air.
      If you can do that then you are definitely dreaming.

      There has to be a completely fool-proof sign like that which tells you beyond all doubts that it can only be a dream and nothing else, not just a slight indication that you are "probably" dreaming.
      If I'm ever uncertain, and I'm indoors, I'll just jump out a window and fly.

      It's much harder to jump out a window IRL than you might imagine.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mzzkc View Post
      If I'm ever uncertain, and I'm indoors, I'll just jump out a window and fly.

      It's much harder to jump out a window IRL than you might imagine.
      Agreed.

      Meandering a bit off topic now, but I came across a group of base-jumpers and wingsuit enthusiasts who are referring to lucid dreaming, and maybe it is somewhat easier to jump from a height on purpose if you have done that in an LD before. How else can you train for the real thing, actually?

      And it is indeed easier to jump from heights in an LD, thankfully, but not entirely so at times, also thankfully for adventure purposes. I was once getting quite afraid of worming out of a hole in a wall on fourth level of a house and drop headfirst. But I wanted that for exactly this reason, that it unsettled me. And it did, but I did it anyway, caught myself and was proud.

      Not entirely sure, why they call their videos that, though:




      Can't imagine to mistake reality for an LD and jump, or psychotropics making me believe I can fly for real neither. Myth in my view, that this would be a danger. And I don't think even severe delusions lead to such a mistake, at least only in exceptional cases - psychotic jumping being suicide (attempts) rather than misapprehension of that order.

      Fear of heights is pretty hardwired and needs to be overridden consciously and with willpower - in case of LDs with the help of meta-consciously realizing, that you are in a simulated reality and hence not in danger.

      Lucid jumping from high edges is more adrenaline-fun for me than taking off from the ground for sure.
      Don't you jump from driving cars, Sensei? I might chicken out, actually - will report somewhere...

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