Thread: Gay Dreams?

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

I don't understand why no one uses their damn head around this place.

Yeah, I dream with my foot

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Wow, my comment about Armageddon Heaven's comment really got things off course. What I thought was so funny is how he talked about guys' talking about wanting to "bang pussy" and then said, "or something gross like that." I wasn't saying I've never heard comments about wanting to bang pussy. Everybody hears that all the time. It's just funny to see a guy call a comment like that "gross". But I guess it makes sense that Armageddon would see it that way.

About the guys talking like girls thing... I don't think it is a choice. I think they would be acting fake if they did not talk like that. I am not a medical doctor, but I am pretty sure it is rooted in a hormonal state. I don't think most of them are putting on an act. If Richard Simmons started talking like John Wayne, it would look ridiculous because it would be so fake.

Totally true =P. Very awesome analogy with Richard Simmons, lol.
If he ever acted like Wayne, it would be so so so obvious that he's faking it.

It's just natural for some guys to be a lil androgynous =3. Hell, I fucking know I am.
A good way to describe it would be like...I rock out to loud Green Day songs and think about anarchy and wanna get in fights with people and shit like that...
And then I see a picture of Green Day's lead singer, Billie Joe Armstong, and suddenly go
"Aww....Biwwie Jowwie...I just wanna shnuggle wiff himm!!!"
It's natural people! We don't have to fall into gender roles. Androgyny is the way to go.

Originally Posted by Tyler Durten

Elaborate

I'm not going to repeat what you said. All you have to do is read the post I was referencing. I'm disappointed that every single "gay thread" around here has to turn into people giving obscene, pornographic descriptions of things that have nothing to do with the thread and wouldn't be an appropriate way to discuss things here even if they were.

This is a dreaming site. It's for everybody (within COPPA limits). It's not a sex line. Keep your bullsh!t potty talk elsewhere.

Originally Posted by I'm Only Sleeping

Yeah, I dream with my foot

As I just explained, I'm referring to people's explicit dirty talk in the general forums, not dreams. Keep that stuff in your dream journal if it's about a dream. If not, find something else to say. Or at the least, a more family-friendly way to say it.

^I apologize for my disrespect for family friendly values.
I'm just not a family friendly type of guy =(. But I'll try harder to keep the words "pussy" and "fuck" out of this board.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

About the guys talking like girls thing... I don't think it is a choice. I think they would be acting fake if they did not talk like that. I am not a medical doctor, but I am pretty sure it is rooted in a hormonal state. I don't think most of them are putting on an act. If Richard Simmons started talking like John Wayne, it would look ridiculous because it would be so fake.

Richard Simmons doesn't want to be like John Wayne... So I don't know wtf that has to do with a gay person trying to talk like a girl.

I've seen guys turn gay suddenly then a year later they are talking like a girl. But before that they talked normal... Sometimes I hear some gay dudes slip up and talk normal all of a sudden also. Usually when drunk.

I'm sure there is like 1% that actually have a high pitched voice with a lisp, and a girly like tone to it though. But it's not natural for a guy to sound that way. How often do you hear a straight guy that sounds gay? ... like 1%

Also, some do it for so long it does become a natural thing for them. Like some black people permantly talk gangster because they've been doing it so long. Or like I was a yankee for 12 years but now almost have a southern draw...

My last point, some gays literally are more feminine than females. That is just absurd.

So many different possibilities, but I think most fake it. If they don't, it still pisses me off.

There is a high correlation between male homosexuality and acting feminine because being attracted to men is a feminine quality, so a feminine hormonal state would often be behind both of them. I talked about Richard Simmons just to make the point that he acts like who he really is. John Wayne is an extreme example of male machoism, and that's why I used him to illustrate what I am talking about. What I am saying is that if Richard Simmons didn't act like a woman, he would be acting fake. The people you have known who didn't act that way but later did were hiding it for a while so they wouldn't get picked on. Showing true colors later is a step toward coming out of the closet. I remember guys in school who acted feminine and didn't reallly realize they were doing it. So they got picked on about it, and now they don't act that way because they want to hide what they really are. They also hide behind churches, wives, and children. I think it sucks that they feel the need to do that. I also knew feminine acting girls who now show who they really are and act masculine. It's all about hormones and taboos.

UM's totally right.
Like me for instance, I'm a total hypocrite.
I say "I don't wanna go out with that guy...he's too feminine"
But then my friends are all "WTF Dan, you act like a girl ALL THE TIME."
And i had no fucking idea lol! But I just do it on instinct, sadly. Not because of other gays, not because of "Will and Grace", but just because I find myself doing it...because I dunno, it's like subconcious.

And you made a good point about how it's a lot like how gangsters act like gangsters, lol.

I agree, it's really hormonal.

Anyone feeling like the title of this topic should be changed? LOL.
Quick, say something about gay dreams so we feel like we're not spamming!

In the dream that I had with Chris, I rolled off the bed and saw my cat on the floor rofl. Very weiird.

cuz your the woman in the relationship so you're looking for a manly man

I just can't agree that it's hormonal 'till it's proven...

Come to Navarre/Pensacola Fl beach during memorial day weekend. Gay people form all over the world come during that weekend... I have no idea how they planned it or w/e but there are MILLIONS for those 2-3 days. I stay away from the beach during that time because I feel like an animal in the zoo if I go there. Plus they are all wearin speedos n shit and I can't take it. You'd love it.

Wow, I see too many people here talking as if they knew so much...

Listen, you are the only one who truly knows yourself. Don't listen to some of the people who posted here saying "you're not gay" or "you are", etc.

That just proves they don't know pretty much anything about dreams nor about you.

It is up to you to decide what these dreams tell you, what is their meaning deep inside you, if they have any meaning. And of course, you don't have to take it 'literal' . So don't let these people who have only met you through this single post tell you what's your sexuality or what's not, and even this dream's meaning!

If you really think you really need some more wise/meaningful explanation about your dreams, ask someone who has really worked and researched about them more thoroughly... or listen to what they might be trying to say, that's my only advice!

It's funny how much different definitions of "gay" people seem to have. I just did some of those tests (not the joke ones) on the net, just for the curiosity of it. They gave me results between 23% and 60% gay. If this tells me one thing, then it is that there is no definite definition of "gay", and any arguing is rather pointless.

Originally Posted by polmc

Wow, I see too many people here talking as if they knew so much...

Listen, you are the only one who truly knows yourself. Don't listen to some of the people who posted here saying "you're not gay" or "you are", etc.

That just proves they don't know pretty much anything about dreams nor about you.

It is up to you to decide what these dreams tell you, what is their meaning deep inside you, if they have any meaning. And of course, you don't have to take it 'literal' . So don't let these people who have only met you through this single post tell you what's your sexuality or what's not, and even this dream's meaning!

If you really think you really need some more wise/meaningful explanation about your dreams, ask someone who has really worked and researched about them more thoroughly... or listen to what they might be trying to say, that's my only advice!

People cannot be gay and not know it. You dont' have to be Freud to know that. Dreams are a mental blender of bizarre associations and transfusions of images. If you want to debate against that, then you are going to be putting yourself in the position of a new revolutionary psychological theorist. Are you ready to step into that position?

Originally Posted by polmc

Wow, I see too many people here talking as if they knew so much...

Listen, you are the only one who truly knows yourself. Don't listen to some of the people who posted here saying "you're not gay" or "you are", etc.

That just proves they don't know pretty much anything about dreams nor about you.

It is up to you to decide what these dreams tell you, what is their meaning deep inside you, if they have any meaning. And of course, you don't have to take it 'literal' . So don't let these people who have only met you through this single post tell you what's your sexuality or what's not, and even this dream's meaning!

If you really think you really need some more wise/meaningful explanation about your dreams, ask someone who has really worked and researched about them more thoroughly... or listen to what they might be trying to say, that's my only advice!

He was saying that he isn't gay, dumbass. That's why we were reassuring him so he feels better about hvaing terrible dreams. I think we have worked and researched dreams more than most people, so it's not a bad idea to ask DV members any question about dreams. But yea, if he was gay and never came out yet, then only he knows. But he said he wasn't, so we were tryin to help him. Dumbass...

Originally Posted by Jansch

It's funny how much different definitions of "gay" people seem to have. I just did some of those tests (not the joke ones) on the net, just for the curiosity of it. They gave me results between 23% and 60% gay. If this tells me one thing, then it is that there is no definite definition of "gay", and any arguing is rather pointless.

Wtf your either gay, bi, or straight, or possibly neither? none of this % shit is true, especially from an online test.lol. You believe all those little online tests? haha srry, dumbass... Oh wait, it was (not the joke ones) so, dumbfuck...

I think everyone here has the same definition of gay too man. It's when a guy is attracted to other guys, not girls. Or a girl that likes other girls, not guys... There, do YOU know what gay is now?. Unless you're in the 30's and it still means giddy and happy to you.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

I don't know, if you're a guy claiming to be bisexual... then you are gay, end of story.

I've had lesbian-ish dreams before. Meh, never sure why.

I dunno Mes, I'm kinda bi, but i like girls more than guys.

I'm not gay, but guys aren't out of the question.

*edit* Is it neccesary, to be so hostile Michael?

Originally Posted by Michael

...dumbass...Dumbass...dumbass...dumbfuck...

4 times? and that's excluding the sarcastic hints.

I mean what, are you fuc*ing high?

regarding "the voice" firstly the "man voice" that is so popular among men, is often fake. the point being the majority of people talking have fake voices because they are infact fake. also i would like to point out the insecurity in alot of these replies. the dudes that act the straightest are the gayest, is a popular saying. lastly , being feminine has nothing to do with being gay or straight. also in my oppinion becoming sexless--being (both boy and girl) is real ., there is no faking a voice, its just being whats there.

^Fairytale is totaly right.
Being normal is being fake...
because our society has decided that you must conform to a certain way to be accepted =(.

And yeah Mikie, you DO seem to use colorful language when the topic of homosexuality is raised =P. I find that people are in an uncomfortable situation, they'll suddenly cuss more or something. Just an observation, I dunno.

"And woe to him inside a nonconformist clique who does not conform
with nonconformity" - Eric Hoffer

Originally Posted by Armageddon_Heaven

And yeah Mikie, you DO seem to use colorful language when the topic of homosexuality is raised =P. I find that people are in an uncomfortable situation, they'll suddenly cuss more or something. Just an observation, I dunno.

No, those dudes were just totally wrong and I wanted to stir up some anger in them. I'm sorry but I don't think I could get uncomfortable over the internet. I use cuss words all the fucking time. Thanks to my parents? or friends? I dunno... When talking, I cuss without knowing it. When typing, it's just plain fun. I forgot to mention, I was watchin "That 70's show".

Originally Posted by Michael

No, those dudes were just totally wrong and I wanted to stir up some anger in them. I'm sorry but I don't think I could get uncomfortable over the internet. I use cuss words all the fucking time. Thanks to my parents? or friends? I dunno... When talking, I cuss without knowing it. When typing, it's just plain fun. I forgot to mention, I was watchin "That 70's show".

To you they were wrong.

To themselves they were right.

It shows respect of the idea of equality, when you accept people's opinions, and only dispute them passively, when they conflict with your own. (which i personally think should be justified, before criticising)

Originally Posted by fairytale complex

...the point being the majority of people talking have fake voices because they are infact fake.

...there is no faking a voice, its just being whats there.

Huh? So most voices are fake and there is no faking a voice? Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

People cannot be gay and not know it. You dont' have to be Freud to know that.?

Universal Mind, people actually can be gay (or straight) without knowing it. It is perfectly possible, I mean there's plenty of people who realize they're true nature long after being adult (as an example). Most of the times it's due to the societ's 'moral' in which people are raised. It is known that many people think that not being straight is something wrong and so they repress the feeling.

But of course that dream could also mean any other thing (I already said it's meaning doesn't have to be literal).

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Dreams are a mental blender of bizarre associations and transfusions of images. If you want to debate against that, then you are going to be putting yourself in the position of a new revolutionary psychological theorist. Are you ready to step into that position

Don't forget that what you're saying about dreams is just an opinion. Neither you nor I can know absolute truth about what dreams are and how they work.

Having said that, I don't want to debate against your position, specially because it's the majority's position. But even if I don't agree, I'm not putting myself in a new revolutionary psichological theorist position (as you say). Treating dreams as something more than just a mental blender of bizarre associations is nothing new. There are ancient cultures which treated dreams with a very different perspective than yours. And not only ancient, look at Jungian psychology, or even Freud's psychoanalytics, for them, dreams can be the key to unveil the subconscient or much more!

So no, Im not ready to step in that position because many other have stepped there long time before you or I were even born.

OOT: sorry for my english!

Originally Posted by polmc

Universal Mind, people actually can be gay (or straight) without knowing it.

If you don't know you're attracted to the same sex then you aren't attracted to the same sex. You are or you aren't. People can possibly change their attractions (or become less apprehensive to admit your attractions) but, if you aren't attracted to the same sex then your aren't gay.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

If you don't know you're attracted to the same sex then you aren't attracted to the same sex. You are or you aren't. People can possibly change their attractions (or become less apprehensive to admit your attractions) but, if you aren't attracted to the same sex then your aren't gay.

That's true man, how can you not knowingly be a homosexual? That makes no sense.

Ok, just one thing... Gay people are gay people, straight people are straight people, bi people are bi people, what is there else to discuss? There are all kinds of gay people and all kinds of bi people and all kinds of straight people, and you cannot know who's which from the stereotypes!
About not knowing? Only if it's a reaaally dumb person!! You may not be certain or want to deny it, but the knowledge that you're gay is always present.

One thing I like about this thread is that no one has been acting like a ten year old, which is great!

Being gay without knowing it...
I guess if you're gay then you do HAVE to know it.
But I can understand if people are in question of their sexuality -
People can't just always be like "YES I AM STRAIGHT." or "YES I AM GAY."
I mean, there's a point when you are assured of it, but I've met a ton of guys who when they learn that I'm gay suddenly believe that they can pour out their deepest secrets to me (Because since I'm gay I'll "understand" for some reason =P)
Anyway, they'll be all "Oh I just don't understand...I'm so confused about if I'm gay or not..."

Now, mind you these guys aren't the most stable people on the block but I'm sure that some guys, at at least one point in their life, will feel confusion over which gender they prefer.
Of course, most of these are gays in denial though x3
"Oh I like girls to talk to and hang out with...but I'd rather be sleeping with guys! Oh I'm so confused." lol, that was me four years ago.