Thread: Gay Dreams?

Originally Posted by Tmer

This is all product of your subconcious the important thing is not to get freaked out by this dreams, this does NOT mean that youre gay or something like that its just toughts that you have and your subcouncious have repressed becouse you dont like them...

The subconscious never lies, for it is apathic and not inhibited by morality. To paraphrase, you may be homosexual but your thoughts are repressing it, as you do not believe it is socially acceptable for you, yourself, to be gay.

Sure, you might say you're not gay, but you don't know what your mind is currently repressing (which is significant, because it won't be repressed forever), but you're saying that consciously, in a state of moral suppression and repression.

Maybe we'll see in the future.

Originally Posted by Burzhi

The subconscious never lies, for it is apathic and not inhibited by morality. To paraphrase, you may be homosexual but your thoughts are repressing it, as you do not believe it is socially acceptable for you, yourself, to be gay.

Sure, you might say you're not gay, but you don't know what your mind is currently repressing (which is significant, because it won't be repressed forever), but you're saying that consciously, in a state of moral suppression and repression.

Maybe we'll see in the future.

Yeah, and we're all killers at heart. After all, who hasn't caused great harm to some one in a dream?

You seem to forget that many things go through our minds. Not just things we want to do or desire. Like when people have that teeth falling out dream... yeah, that's because they secretly desire for their teeth to crumble in their mouth.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

Yeah, and we're all killers at heart. After all, who hasn't caused great harm to some one in a dream?

You seem to forget that many things go through our minds. Not just things we want to do or desire. Like when people have that teeth falling out dream... yeah, that's because they secretly desire for their teeth to crumble in their mouth.

To believe all that would be taking dreams far too much at face value - after all, dreams comprise mere symbolisms of our unconscious thoughts.

1. Teeth falling out - could be stress, as something so disturbing is occuring. Not a desire.
2. Aggression - We all have anger inside us, whether we display it or not.

These are both archetypal dream experiences, having sex with your mother and men with great pleasure is not necessarily one of them.

I cannot see the symbolism of fornicating with your own mother to represent anything other than an immoral desire that cannot be expressed consciously.

Originally Posted by Tyler Durten

you dont know what the fuck your saying - so if a girl claims to be bisexual then she is, right? but if a guy says it then he's gay, right? fuck you and your idiotic thinking . It shits me.

Im not gay but i really hate how girls are so fucking lesbian like and dont even admit it and claim its only friendly yet when guys do something not even as bad as that - girls classify it as gay.

example - greetings methods
guy meets guy - hand shake, if they hug hello - girls says its gay
girl meets girl - hugs numerous times, kisses on cheeks and lips. Practically start finger fucking each other and sucking each other pussy and call it GOOD FRIENDS

well I don't know about the whole sucking each others pussy part, you sure you aint just imaging things?

girls can kiss each other, snuggle each other, shower together, even sleep in the same bed and be 100% straight and 100% all horny for guys. Is it denial? No. Lesbians do other things, like suck each others face and slap butts and boobies.. And even then a girl isn't going to have an orgasmic explosion if she does touch another girls boobies. Why, because if guys aren't around, we have no shame taking off our bras, they're annoying as hell you know? Guys forget they're not sex organs

The reason why girls can kiss and snuggle and still be straight is simple - were not homophobic, not as homophobic as guys at least. GUYS ARE. Guys are so homophobic that two male friends can barely even stand close together before they get nervous of each others FORSAKEN skin

there are however a few guys that do, kiss and snuggle and are straight. Hell, they can be married with kids and totally cool with gay guys. It's not denial, it's acceptance that they love each other, and possibly culture. *Some cultures are more snuggly-wuggly in general, compare the latin world to japan*

Guys are so homophobic, I tend to feel their subconscious is exploding. I mean, there are only so many ways to show you care about a person. And certainly, the homophobic male goes out of his way to show he doesn't really feel anything for a male best friend. So they act like robots around each other. This must be very confusing for the subconscious, the seat of emotions. Thus, the homophobic guy gets secret gay thoughts - and they grow stronger the more he actually cares about another male. DENIAL. ITS CALLED LOVE. ITS OKAY ITS NORMAL TO SHOW SOME SORT OF PHYSICAL AFFECTION!

Just hug a guy and get it over with <- *this banana is so terribly wrong right now*

Originally Posted by Burzhi

I cannot see the symbolism of fornicating with your own mother to represent anything other than an immoral desire that cannot be expressed consciously.

No, because it couldn't be that Mother represents a loving, noturing women. And no one would want to dream about a loving, nurturing woman.

To believe all that would be taking dreams far too much at face value...

Then don't do it and assume it means something that you can identify.

Originally Posted by juroara

well I don't know about the whole sucking each others pussy part, you sure you aint just imaging things?

girls can kiss each other, snuggle each other, shower together, even sleep in the same bed and be 100% straight and 100% all horny for guys. Is it denial? No. Lesbians do other things, like suck each others face and slap butts and boobies.. And even then a girl isn't going to have an orgasmic explosion if she does touch another girls boobies. Why, because if guys aren't around, we have no shame taking off our bras, they're annoying as hell you know? Guys forget they're not sex organs

The reason why girls can kiss and snuggle and still be straight is simple - were not homophobic, not as homophobic as guys at least. GUYS ARE. Guys are so homophobic that two male friends can barely even stand close together before they get nervous of each others FORSAKEN skin

there are however a few guys that do, kiss and snuggle and are straight. Hell, they can be married with kids and totally cool with gay guys. It's not denial, it's acceptance that they love each other, and possibly culture. *Some cultures are more snuggly-wuggly in general, compare the latin world to japan*

Guys are so homophobic, I tend to feel their subconscious is exploding. I mean, there are only so many ways to show you care about a person. And certainly, the homophobic male goes out of his way to show he doesn't really feel anything for a male best friend. So they act like robots around each other. This must be very confusing for the subconscious, the seat of emotions. Thus, the homophobic guy gets secret gay thoughts - and they grow stronger the more he actually cares about another male. DENIAL. ITS CALLED LOVE. ITS OKAY ITS NORMAL TO SHOW SOME SORT OF PHYSICAL AFFECTION!

Just hug a guy and get it over with <- *this banana is so terribly wrong right now*

Ugh
You could not have been more right.
Men are so so so homophobic...
And you're right - their emotions are rotting away. It's evolution, lol. Soon men will be sex craved robots and shit.

But I gladly don't see myself as a man - I'm androgynous.
But that doesn't mean that I would go hug a guy. I mean, I'd have to find a guy I want to do that to first =P.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

No, because it couldn't be that Mother represents a loving, noturing women. And no one would want to dream about a loving, nurturing woman.


Then don't do it and assume it means something that you can identify.

I'm not quite understanding you - are you saying that we should all want to dream about molesting our mothers because they are loving, nurturing women?

Originally Posted by Burzhi

I'm not quite understanding you - are you saying that we should all want to dream about molesting our mothers because they are loving, nurturing women?

No, sex. Not "molestation".

Originally Posted by Absolute

I'm with you on this one. It's just like if a girl sleeps with a few guys in one month she's a whore, but if a guy sleeps with 20 in a week he's a pimp. What the fuuuck?

Girls could be so close that they experiment with eachother, yet if two guys wanted to blow eachother to experiment physical feeling then they're gay? Children, children... flesh is nothing but a vessel for what we really are. You are simply wasting your time with the insignificant and adolescent comformities of modern day human society. Just let it go and go with the flow.

I agree many Women are socially condemned for doing what makes them feel really good.

Originally Posted by ranma187

I agree many Women are socially condemned for doing what makes them feel really good.

Everybody is.

It's this God damned thinking that people have chosen in society.

Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual.

It's all the same.

We are humans, who just love defining life about where we put our genitals.

The ignorance, that must stem, from such prudence, will have that inevitable outcome.

Just, because we can't think of anything better than a simple orgasm. It's ridiculous.

cloudWalker

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

No, sex. Not "molestation".

You'll be calling it the "making of sweet love" next

And no one would want to dream about a loving, nurturing woman.

I honestly don't think anybody else here would want to dream about having sex with their mother because she is a loving, nurturing woman, despite your apparent sarcasm. Odd.

Originally Posted by Burzhi

You'll be calling it the "making of sweet love" next



I honestly don't think anybody else here would want to dream about having sex with their mother because she is a loving, nurturing woman, despite your apparent sarcasm. Odd.

*sigh* First of all, I never said anyone does - or should - want to dream about loving-up Mommy Dearest. We're talking about what it might mean IF some one were to have such a dream. Surely you don't think every dream is a literal iteration of a real-life desire.

Dream images and characters are representations of ideas, thoughts, schemas, and random/pseudo-random connections. In dreams, our common sense and will are severely hampered. If you find yourself drinking the juice from a rock in a dream you may think "Hey, that's not right. That doesn't even makes sense. You can't drink from a rock because rocks don't have juice." It doesn't mean you have a deep, perverted desire to drink from rocks now does it?

Well, the same thing can be said of any dream scenario. If some one dreams about sex with the same sex, it doesn't automatically mean they desire that. It's likely that it's a sex dream with a DC who, if rational thought and common sense were in play, the dreamer would say to himself "Whoa, that's not right." Same goes with the Mother situation. Dream sex with a women is nothing more than dream sex with a "woman" DC. That woman could be anyone. It doesn't mean the dreamer has a desire to screw his/her own Mother

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

*sigh* First of all, I never said anyone does - or should - want to dream about loving-up Mommy Dearest. We're talking about what it might mean IF some one were to have such a dream. Surely you don't think every dream is a literal iteration of a real-life desire.

Dream images and characters are representations of ideas, thoughts, schemas, and random/pseudo-random connections. In dreams, our common sense and will are severely hampered. If you find yourself drinking the juice from a rock in a dream you may think "Hey, that's not right. That doesn't even makes sense. You can't drink from a rock because rocks don't have juice." It doesn't mean you have a deep, perverted desire to drink from rocks now does it?

Well, the same thing can be said of any dream scenario. If some one dreams about sex with the same sex, it doesn't automatically mean they desire that. It's likely that it's a sex dream with a DC who, if rational thought and common sense were in play, the dreamer would say to himself "Whoa, that's not right." Same goes with the Mother situation. Dream sex with a women is nothing more than dream sex with a "woman" DC. That woman could be anyone. It doesn't mean the dreamer has a desire to screw his/her own Mother

I totally agree with you. Good point.

Our subconscious mind is spontaneous most of the time.