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      Question regarding dream characters

      Hello!I am a new user of this wonderful forum i have some question on a dream i had recently.

      While i am not experiacing lucidity in my dreams (though i used to do that years ago,while doing and practicing in my real life the "dream/reality tests" like switching on/off the lights,looking at my watch,or looking my hands and counting my finters,or looking at numbers twice,or saying in my head "am i dreaming or not?"

      Here is the story.In my walking life i was very pissed off and angry of people taking advantage of me in some places of my own life.

      I was pissed of by a taxi driver that tried to charge me more for the distance i travelled and i said inside me "this won't ever happen again from now on anyone trying to cheat or steal me shall have me as an enemy".

      I was determined to change my self by learning lucid techniques and transform various characters that appear in my dreams in the sense that the bad ego that i had like parts of my personality that were manipulated by others could be changed by transforming those characters.

      So the story goes that i start telling him in serious and angry voice tone "hey you are stealing me,i wont pay you more than that,and i insist in a very determined way.When i walked off the taxi i felt a little frustrated because i would never do that before in such a way.

      This night in my dream i see that i am sleeping in a bed and that there are some people in the hotel (i dreamed i was in an expensive hotel),that wanted to have fun with me,and take decisions for my life while i am in that bed sleeping.

      So in an angry and very aggresive way,i say NO and i get up,and i get a katana sword in my hands.I go down the lounge room (or sort of) and there are tables with people eating and smoking.I go to the entrance of the hotel which happens to be near by,and i watch a crowd of 7-8 people,in the centre of that table was an old friend and schoolmate of mine.I point to him with my index finger and then i do the hacksaw style movement on my neck like telling him "you are dead",i have the katana sword in my right hand and i wait for them to come up so i would kill them all.

      Then alarm clock sounds and i wake up before i manage kill them.

      The characters seemed frightened by my appearence and scared.

      That old schoolmate of mine was a good fellow,although to me in my life i always had him in my mind as a very good and lawful person,and stupid in cases too,and looser in others.

      So to me it represents parts of my self that need to be changed so others cannot take advantage of me or manipulate me.

      My question is what bad can i get by killing parts of my personality?Can in a way help such parts of me grow and get better without killing characters in dreams ?

      Or would it be better to get lucid dream techniques and try to eliminate any bad part of my personality by killing it ?Would that be dangerous?

      I feel that part of personality and self is represented visually in the dreams,and actions like killing or caring or something else could have a change in the way i think and treat my self and others.

      Can somebody help me ?
      Years ago when i practiced lucid techniques i would often ask the characters in my dreams "who are you and what do you want ?",now i did not have lucidity to ask but when i woke up i knew that he just represented parts of my personality that need a fix.

      Looking forward for a reply soon.

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      Welcome to DreamViews!
      It actually sounds like your life may be a bit stressful at the moment. Any big changes that have happened? Or have a lot of work? Usually killing someone in your dream means you have a lot of stress in your life! I doubt trying to eliminate any bad parts of your personality will do any harm to you.

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      In dreams, we have fewer inhibitions. Those aren't part of yourself that need to be changed, those are parts of yourself that you need to learn to express.

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      Rather than trying to kill them it might be a better idea to try to integrate them... they seem to represent parts of the shadow... the hidden parts of us that we try to deny exists because they're angry or malicious or embarrassing.

      From what I've heard trying to attack or run away from things like this in a dream makes them stronger and more monstrous, but having a conversation with them or expressing love for them in spite of anything stupid or mean they've done (as in real life) is the best way to deal with it. Then they often become more human and more friendly and can actually become powerful helpers.

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      Though you are, of course, free to have your own idea of what dream characters are (since none of us really knows for sure), I tend to think that a dream character can be one of several things. It can be a part of your personality, it can be another dreamer, it can be a memory, or it can just be something fabricated by your mind for no apparent reason.

      So my advice to you: go for something in particular next time you're in a lucid dream. Whatever part of yourself that you want to confront (if that's what you want to do), aim to confront that. If your dream control is any good, this will work out far better than just taking a hack-n-slash approach in non-lucids, where you might not be killing off anything more than pure imagination


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      Actually my walking day life is in a need for many changes.Not so much of stress rather than need to improve my self.I remember when i was younger (from age 18 to 20) i had many lucid dreams,(without much try from my part),and even one or 2 wild situations where i went to sleep with full logic and thoughts in my head.

      Back in the past i used to talk to any dream character i could see and ask them "who are you and what you want from me and my life".Sadly it seems that i lost lucidity because i stopped doing reality checks and tests but it is something i want to have back again.

      I felt good when i woke up after that dream,i felt like parts of myself that were not mature were moving away from me,however i think killing may be a bit too much.

      Next time should i add a hug?and try to tell to those characters i love you? I have done this many times in the past.

      I remember a lion-dragon like flying animal attacking me,and me and asking "who are you and what you want" ,and give a handshake,the animal stopped attacking me and told me "i am the expression of fears in your everyday life regarding your studies in university and what would you do in your life after studies". (i had lot of stress then regarding where would i find a job and work after i finish studies).

      However after all these years i tend to think that giving love and hug is something good,but what if i really want to get rid of them?Should i try to transform them?Or tell them you are no longer wanted here?or give them a ticket for trip to another country and tell them come back when you have actually matured or something to offer me ?

      In another thread i read that killing monsters is good if after that you bury them to a grave and plant a tree and eat the fruit that comes from the tree (in a meaning to try to integrate it inside ourselves).

      I am in the process of trying again to become lucid.So i am doing reality tests all the time.

      Someone said that these characters represent part of the shadow self,but why would a part of the shadow self be scared?Isn't the shadow self a little more aggresive?The character that was going to get killed by me was scared and starled by me holding the sword.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nikodr View Post
      Next time should i add a hug?and try to tell to those characters i love you? I have done this many times in the past.
      If it's waking-life problems you are wanting to deal with in the dream world, I would say this is a pretty good idea. Cultivating a mindset of love for others could really help a lot.


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      Hi there,

      I just wanted to share a great site i found for info on dream interpretation, lucid dreaming, dream symbols etc etc....its a great place for info. Check it out at http://www.dreaminterpretationguide.com

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      UPDATE

      I had a very long dream last night...I slept at about 5 o clock but woke up at 13:00.

      The dream had 2 phases.About 4-5 minutes of me not being lucid,i saw something like a ceremony of graduation at school (which was very interesting and i will post it in another thread with many details),and another 2-3 that i was lucid.

      When the ceremony ended,i found myself going in a room,in that room i started to bounce through the 4 walls continiously.Now while i was going bouncing in the walls (like a cartoon character literaly),another character appears in the scene,he says something to me,(that i cant remember) but his appeareance makes me go lucid,saying "since you say that that means i am dreaming!".

      So i stop bouncing and i am on my feet again,looking at a door that has about 20-25 people sitting on tables talking etc.Many of them were friends and many uknown.

      Since i know i am dreaming,i go and question about 10-12 of them "who are you and what do you want out of me"

      A friend of mine named manos says "i am the represantation of your financial problems",another one says i am the fears you have in your life regarding your job,one or two said some minigless words that i couldn't understand.Another one is one teacher of my school that died last week.

      Now i come to a table and i see a woman in black wearing a mask like darth vader.
      I question that character "who are you and what do you want out of me?"
      But she answers in a very spoiled way like a bad character "I wouldn't tell you" in a very mean way,and that character dissappers in front of my eyes like he was disintigrated.

      Now since i know i am lucid i am determined to call people in my dream so the next scene is my using the word "visualize" marilena.And so i see my ex-gf marilena appearing.Next word is "visualize" diabates.

      Since i am diabetic i wanted to see what image my brain had used to visualize the diabetes i have.So next to my gf marilena a female version of me appears,with a snake-tongue appearing (probably meaning that diabetes is something evil and you should always take care of it since it can easily do harm and backstab you,diabetes has many complications literaly).

      Now comes the next crazy scene.

      I summon "visualize Pancreas" (the organ that is producing insuline and is the one responsible for diabetes).A refrigarator appears and opens and in it i see a wounded pancreas beating like it has pulse (like a hearrt).

      Then i say "Visualize brain" (like i wanted to see my brain) and a character that has a brain on top of it appears and says "yes"
      and i say "Heal and send a neurotransimter to heal my pancreas."

      Brain says "yes" and then the scene fades and i wake up.

      What do you have to say?
      I knew i was sleeping and wanted to see what i think about my illness and thought it should be good to command the word heal and actually it was fun to say "visualize brain" and literaly my brain to appear in front of me

      But who was that black character that refused to say who she was?Most characters responded,she was the only one that refused to answer and was so spoiled and bad and not helpful.

      It was my first lucid dream for a long time actually!.

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