Thread: Australian Fire's (possible) method of having hours of lucidity!

Well, this sounds it will work without a doubt. The only hard part is to always be aware of your surroundings with all 5 senses.

well you can give taste a miss, i mean you can't always be licking or eating everything, but try to use it when possible

In my dreams, I'm constantly checking my own weight and stuff around me, yet they don't last hours. From self experience I would say it doesn't works, but that might be just me <.<

Right now, I can't do it, I can barely remember my dreams at all. Next time I get a LD, I'll try it.

It seems to work for me, i have only done it once though, i havn't had a lucid since. Anyone else want to help to test it with me?

It will certainly make your lucids longer but you will still wake up after the REM period was over so they will still be an hour or two long at most, that is, without dialating time. I think it would still be great to not have to wory about destabilizing but it would only work well if you could learn to do it while still being to do other stuff in the dream.

Originally Posted by MadMonkey

It will certainly make your lucids longer but you will still wake up after the REM period was over so they will still be an hour or two long at most, that is, without dialating time. I think it would still be great to not have to wory about destabilizing but it would only work well if you could learn to do it while still being to do other stuff in the dream.

I think it may be a possible time dialation method, if your dream is constantly stable, then you can't realy wake up without an outside stimulas

Well you wont wake up but the dream will end. Thats just my hypothesis though I'm interested to see what constant stabilization could do.

I've been meaning to try this too, hopefully I will remember it in my next lucid =)

To help prolong lucidity I do some constant RCs which help me to remain focused. I pay close attention to my breathing and blinking while awake or sleeping and when I LD I do not breathe or blink because I realize these things are no longer required. When I speak my mouth never opens. I also like to shapeshift and holding a certain form helps to stay lucid.

I'll help test it. it looks like it would make dreams more realistic, too!

yes this is a great way to keep them stable. only thing is keeping focussed as always. feeling the air/wind on your skin is always a good one as you can do it pretty much anywhere. once you can keep it up you should be able to be really focussed in real life. perhaps holding something in your hand would remind you to keep restabilising through touch

Originally Posted by AustralianFire

Hello everyone
This is my possible method of having lucids that last what feels like hours. And i will need you guys help to see if it works.

In the tutorials section it says that as you realize you are dreaming, stabilize for a few moments, well i beleive to have long lasting lucids you should be stabelizing every second. The way you do it is simple, do your usual stabilization after that you decide you want to fly, procede to do that, but feel the wind in your hair, notice any smells tha are present, observe the surrounding landscape, you decide to land and you want to kill a zombie hord, as you summon that wepon, feel the texture of the hand grip, the force of the recoil from the shooting, the concrete under your feet etc etc.

the main idea is keep 100% awarness of every sense, don't lose track of any. As the dream becomes longer and longer, Remeber what you have already done in that dream. Using this technique you should be able to have lucids that felt like they have gone for hours. Anyone want to help test this?

You're assuming that there aren't any diminishing returns on sense awareness as it pertains to dream stability. Unfortunately, in my experience there's huge diminishing returns, and this method could probably only add a few minutes to a lucid. A better technique is called 'chaining', which is where you let the dream collapse, and then do a quick WILD (specifically a DEILD) and try to return to the same dream scene. DEILD chaining works quite well, but it also experiences diminishing returns. However, in my experience, you can extend dream length by possibly 20-30 minutes using chaining. Now, the downside of chaining is that it seems to make remembering the previous 'links' in the chain more difficult every time you add another segment.

You're assuming that there aren't any diminishing returns on sense awareness as it pertains to dream stability. Unfortunately, in my experience there's huge diminishing returns, and this method could probably only add a few minutes to a lucid.

What?

DEILD-chaining and staying in the dream are two completely different things. I agree with what you said about letting the dream destabilize and get ready to WILD back, it's a good method. It doesn't make the second chain more stable though, in my experience.

Besides, a few minutes sounds kind of good to me. Most of my lucids are under 5 minutes anyway. This technique has of course been posted several times already and is used by me and many other people.

Originally Posted by XeL

What?

DEILD-chaining and staying in the dream are two completely different things. I agree with what you said about letting the dream destabilize and get ready to WILD back, it's a good method. It doesn't make the second chain more stable though, in my experience.

DEILD chaining can be used to re-enter the same dream, and it does reset the stability clock to some extent. Certainly better than trying to stay in the same dream, seeing as though that can't actually work. This isn't Inception...

Originally Posted by cmind

Certainly better than trying to stay in the same dream, seeing as though that can't actually work.

It has worked several times for me, but thanks for informing me it's not working. /sarcasm

This isn't Inception...

I'm not sure how that relates to anything I've said above.

Originally Posted by XeL

It has worked several times for me, but thanks for informing me it's not working.

Did it ever extend the dream by more than a minute or two? Like I said, diminishing returns. Meaning, it works well for small time extensions, but it's useless for longer extensions.

Oh yes! Hold on, I'll link you to some entries from my DJ here on DV!

Here are some good ones:

http://www.dreamviews.com/f26/~xels-...ml#post1508870

http://www.dreamviews.com/f26/~xels-...ml#post1508872

Perhaps you'd like to try it and time your lucid with a watch or clock (a real one ) ? Obviously, you'd have to WILD to be able to time it. Maybe do several dreams with and without the sense technique?

Yes, actually, I've been very interested in dream time extension lately, but studies have gotten in the way.

I believe everyone is different so dream time extension is different for everyone. For some may be shorter, some hours longer, and some not at all.

Just becacause you did it and had a longer dream dosn't mean it works. There are lots of factors and reasons it could be longer. Still I'm sure it helps. About DEILD its great when I really need to get something done I find it makes my next dream less and less stable sometimes.

Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Just becacause you did it and had a longer dream dosn't mean it works.

It's a known fact that activating your senses will make you stay in the dream longer. It's funny how people argue against this.

Cmind, that sounds good, and i've been trying DEILD. what would be awesome is to do BOTH! that would add 20-30 minutes PLUS 5 or 6 more!