Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
BIAS = inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair. You should read those pages then as I have said his technqiues work exceedingly well so I am not biased.

One doesn't get asked for an interview with the magazine lucid dream exchange unless one is highly experienced in the field which Nick is. You're confused, I think you meant DebraJane as she has been doing all of the quoting with her transcritptions and not me.

I have been researching and practicing some of his techniques for the last three years and they work so I am not making assumption as you say I am.



I think you should educate yourself by reading his interview with the magazine Lucid Dream Exchange conducted by Robert Waggoner.



Newport's work has been more effective for me than LaBerge's work. FACT.
Ok, I am just stating right now that I take a neutral stance in this discussion. I have not used the methods from Lucidology, but that does not mean I will never try them or that I'm just going to slag it off.

But there are some points I feel I need to make.

1. Being biased is basically favoratism. You choose one side over another, and pretty much makes you deaf to what others have to say. This has happened to both sides of the debate I believe, including you, Mcwillis! I have seen some of your posts in other threads, and when people say that the methods are not working for them, you tell them they've worked for you and so they should try harder (not your exact words but basically the gist of it) and it feels (to me) as though you assume that since these methods work for you, they must work for that particular person... I think you need to remember that everyone is different, and what works for you and Atkins may not work for other people

2. About the magazine interview; I see interviews all the time where the people are not as experienced as they seem. Although as I have a neutral stance, I cannot say whether he is or not. I'm not taking sides. What I think LucidTeamate means, is that you are saying that he can get lucid in 15 seconds and has had 1000 lucid dreams. But people can lie. I don't know where you got this information from, but just because Nick Newport says he has doesn't mean he's being truthful. I think this is what LucidTeamate was pointing out. But then again, maybe he has. Just because he says he has doesn't mean I believe it to be true. I am uncertain on this matter however, because to me there is no way of proving or not proving that he has done these achievements.

3.Once again, what works for you may not work for others. But I am glad it works for you

4. As I stated in point 2, what he says in the magazine may not be altogether truthful.

5. Newport's work may work best for you, but I'm pretty certain that for other people LaBerge's work will work better for them than Newport's. It is again the simple matter that everyone is different and percieves things in different ways. Some people will prefer Newport's work whereas others will prefer LaBerge's.

As I said, I would rather not be swayed either way until I tried these methods for myself. But if I try them and they do not work, I won't go around saying it's a scam because they could work for other people as they have for you and Atkins

I hope they continue to help you.