Thread: Lucidology 101 & Nicholas Newport (Entire Video Course Here)

Interesting. I didn't know about any of this. And Mcwillis you are completely right. Who did invent the timer method? Oh ya.. first time I heard of it was from L101 and haven't saw it anywhere else. Could be wrong, but im pretty sure its his baby, and it gave me my very first ld.

As far as L103, haven't tried it. yet.
Now I love how someone like WLLPEREGOY comes right into the middle of the thread and defends someone without knowing the whole situation.
I actually like Aquanina as she has always been nice towards me as well, but we do have disagreeable views on this particular topic. I do not hold that against her though and I do think she is a great mod here in DV as long as she does't take personal views as far as to delete threads. As far as what you had mentioned MCW I think she undersands now this is something we want to discuss and have discussed. This isn't about Nick Newport and likes or dislikes for him or lucidology, its for discussion of the methods.

I don't think there should be a discussion about specific people here. I know Aquanina opposed your views, but there's always going to be someone (in this case a lot of people) who have conflicting opinions with others. I think you guys should drop the Aquanina-do-you-like-her topic.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Aquanina immediately deleted my thread and I asked for an explanation and she implied that she didn't like Nick and I shouldn't be advertising products. I replied to her that saying that she is biased towards Nick and that I was wanting to simply share an important discovery concerning DILD induction that she should investigate rather than immediately condemn it. I didn't get a reply. I took an immediate dislike to her because of this.

Ok so now you're just plain lying...and I have no patience for liars. In my response to you, I never said nor implied that I disliked anyone, I was merely upholding my moderator position in removing a thread which was in violation of the forum's policy regarding advertising. In other words...just doing my job. I included the link to the NN thread as an FYI and clearly showed no bias whatsoever. But people see what they want to see I guess.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Hello,

Just a friendly reminder (warning) that advertising other lucid dreaming websites here is not allowed, so please do not post links to lucidology. Also, you might be interested in the following thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/stop-d...rmation-81402/

Cheers
-nina

DV Staff

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Ok so now you're just plain lying...and I have no patience for liars. In my response to you, I never said nor implied that I disliked anyone, I was merely upholding my moderator position in removing a thread which was in violation of the forum's policy regarding advertising. In other words...just doing my job. I included the link to the NN thread as an FYI and clearly showed no bias whatsoever. But people see what they want to see I guess.

Its fine guys. Aquanina is a great mod, and as I said earlier I have no problem with her personally.. lets continue discussing what this thread is meant to discuss. Please. lol

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Ok so now you're just plain lying...and I have no patience for liars. In my response to you, I never said nor implied that I disliked anyone, I was merely upholding my moderator position in removing a thread which was in violation of the forum's policy regarding advertising. In other words...just doing my job. I included the link to the NN thread as an FYI and clearly showed no bias whatsoever. But people see what they want to see I guess.

Ok I put my hands up to the friendly reminder, however, I wasn't lieing, I didn't completely remember our original conversation. So why haven't you deleted all of the other threads promoting commercial lucid dreaming products that are sometimes bogus products that do create enormous misinformation concerning the attainment of lucidity? I can only assume it is because you have a strong negative bias towards Mr. Newport, i.e. that you dislike him. And my original dislike towards you has changed as I have got to know you better around this forum.

Originally Posted by atkins513

Its fine guys. Aquanina is a great mod, and as I said earlier I have no problem with her personally.. lets continue discussing what this thread is meant to discuss. Please. lol

How useful did you find stop, drop and roll?

Actually, thats one of the techniques I have not used.. I have trained myself to fall asleep very quickly and using such a drawn out technique as stop drop and roll doesn't seem like it would work well for me.. so i havent tried it just yet.. what do you think about it? have you used it?

Something I have used is laying on the floor for a bit, then getting into bed, but this technique works so well I usually just pass out lol

Originally Posted by WLLPEREGOY

Aquanina is probably my favorite person on DV, Maybe she has other things to do and can't delete every thread with advertising on here.
Aquanina is nice and awesome END OF STORY

Thanks for the interjection of complete nonsense but we were talking about the stop drop and roll method, not aquanina.. She's nice, we like her.. good. Thanks for your input. So back to topic.. have you tried Stop drop and roll Mcwillis?

Ok I think it's time for me to jump into this conversation.

When I first found out about lucid dreaming, the first thing I did was go to youtube and type in, "How to lucid dream" I found Newports videos and they actually helped me. I didn't think they were confusing and his videos on SP taught me that there is nothing to be scared of when going threw SP and the different symptoms of sleep paralysis.

I think thats pretty good considering a lot of the videos on youtube involving sleep paralysis talk about how its scary and stuff about demons and peoples experiences.

For exmaple:

If you look at the comments, the majority of the comments talk about how it's scary and how it's paranormal

YouTube - The Science of Sleep Paralysis

YouTube - sleep paralysis explained?

After I watched Newports videos, I did some more research and I found this forum.
Now if I were to see one of these videos then I probably wouldn't be here posting this right now.

His stop drop and roll commands were also pretty helpful as well as how he explains that you have a better chance at lucid dreaming in the morning. Which is exactly why when you hit the snooze button in the morning when you wake up and go back to sleep, you usually have a long vivid dream.

Oh and mcwills, what would your overall review of lucidology 102 be? (I'm just curious.)

Originally Posted by iFatal

Ok I think it's time for me to jump into this conversation.

When I first found out about lucid dreaming, the first thing I did was go to youtube and type in, "How to lucid dream" I found Newports videos and they actually helped me. I didn't think they were confusing and his videos on SP taught me that there is nothing to be scared of when going threw SP and the different symptoms of sleep paralysis.

I think thats pretty good considering a lot of the videos on youtube involving sleep paralysis talk about how its scary and stuff about demons and peoples experiences.

For exmaple:

If you look at the comments, the majority of the comments talk about how it's scary and how it's paranormal

YouTube - The Science of Sleep Paralysis

YouTube - sleep paralysis explained?

After I watched Newports videos, I did some more research and I found this forum.


Now if I were to see one of these videos then I probably wouldn't be here posting this right now.

His stop drop and roll commands were also pretty helpful as well as how he explains that you have a better chance at lucid dreaming in the morning. Which is exactly why when you hit the snooze button in the morning when you wake up and go back to sleep, you usually have a long vivid dream.

you know you could've got the same exact information from EWLD all nick does is drag out common techniques

it says to wake up about 3 hrs early then go back to sleep in EWLD hm... sounds just like what you posted there

end of story

Not end of story. You mentioned one technique that is similiar.. So if Ewld works, then apparently Nicks method that "sounds just like what you posted there" would also work. Thanks for the confirmation lol

nick just gets his techniques from EWLD and other people and drags them out and calls them his own.

have you even READ EWLD??

i have watched stop drop and roll and all he does is drag out the WILD that other scientists have invented

Hi all 14 contributors to this thread.

(Atkins512, Robert Butler, mcwillis, Puffin, Hukif, Pan, dteamsickle, luffy28, GuyCecil, Neee, Dakotahok, Kona, Raspberry, iFatal.)

I'm going to have another go at Lucid Dreaming again. And I thought I'd use Nick's second and seventh 101 video's

Question:

Where is the best place to open a thread on my attempt?

Would it be best for me to open a dream journal and do it in that?

If so, how do I open a dream journal?

(Post 73 on page 3)

From video 2

The whole trick to Lucid Dreaming is to enter a subconscious focus without losing awareness.

(2:28)

So how do you do that?

Sleep paralysis is not dangerous because it is something that your body does every night.

(...)

Luckily, paralysis is limited to your voluntary muscle sysmtem like your arms and legs. Your breathing is semi involuntary so you still have control over it even in deep paralysis. If you enter sleep paralysis and decide you want to break free and wake-up, simply change your breathing pattern to something other than the sleep breathing pattern your body is already in.

(...)

(...) ... enter Mind Awake, Body Asleep. When this happens you’re actually aware of the process your body goes through when it falls asleep.

This is our main secret trick for doing Visualization Free lucid dreams and OBE’s.

This transition is the most important skill to learn in this part of the course.

(5:18)

Why? Because when you can put your body to sleep without losing consciousness at any point, you have 100% perfectly clear dream recall.

This is called a Wake Induced Lucid Dream or (WILD). It is as easy to remember what you did in a WILD as it is to remember the last fifteen or so of waking awareness.

(6:12)

Here is the Key:

And this one fact is so important and so critical that I’m giving it a Big Fancy name, it’s called The Fundermental Therum of Sleep Paralysis.

The Fundermental Therum of Sleep Paralysis is that when you wake-up and fall asleep without moving at all sleep paralysis becomes extreemly likely.

(...)

(6:55)

The foundation skill that you need to develop this knowledge into a full blown induction is To Fall Asleep Quickly.

Post 77 on page 4 (from video 7)

What we really want looks more like this (diagram). What you want is to hover on the awake-asleep thresh hold. So you slip into a subconscious focus without losing too much awareness by slipping into a deep sleep.

(…)

You may be thinking, “Easier said than done”. Because what usually happens is when people try to do this they just fall asleep and that’s the end of it.

The solution most books give is to hope that you some how magically become aware within the dream spontainiously. The idea is that by telling yourself over and over, while your awake, to become lucid, that eventually you’ll have lucid dreams just from force of habit alone.

(2:22)

It turns out that such a secret weapon does exist. It’s called a digital cooking timer.

(...)

The idea is to fall asleep as normal and don’t even try to stay aware.

You set the timer to beep so that it wakes you up a few minutes later.

(...)

First you wake-up and fall asleep 4 or 5 times, without moving, using a timer.(...). This will put you in sleep paralysis.

Then (...)

Then (...)

I (deb) will work just with the bit I pulled from video's 2 and 7 till I can make it work. Here is a bit more that I
like from video 7.

Whether you get an Lucid Dream or OBE from this depends on where you’re focussing at the moment of the phantom beep, either in the dream or on your physical body.

(7:07)

If you get a Lucid Dream your clarity level will likely be less than most OBE’s. However Lucid Dreams are often a lot more fun because they often start out in some kind of strange, other-wordly area, which is usually more fun to explore than the non-phisical version of your bedroom.

OBE’s often have much higher clarity than Lucid Dreams.

When you use the timer method you’ll end-up with plenty of each so you can decide which you prefer.

Hey debrajane, it would probably be best if you use a dream journal.

You can start one by going to "dream journals" at the top bar, and at the top right of the page you'll see a button to make an entry. Then just type out your entry and post it

Good luck

Hi everyone

I have ordered a nice Dreamer Sleep mask (blindfold) so I can try this:

Lucidology

part 8

Transcript from beginning to 41/2 minute point of 7 minute part 8 video

(00:08)

Hi this is Nicholas Newport and welcome to Lucidology 101:

“How to trick your body into falling asleep to quickly start having lots of OBE’s and Lucid Dreams without using any visualizations”

(00:19)

In a lot of OBE’s it’s really hard to tell what’s going on because every thing is going to be so solid and vivid and detailed that you won’t really know for sure if you’re actually awake or if your in an OBE. So, here in Part 8 we’ll find out how to basically take the RED PILL and do REALITY-CHECKS to figure out what’s going on and whether your in an OBE or not.

Lucid Dreams and OBE’s can be extremely realistic.

In fact a lot of times it’s very hard to tell if you’re actually awake or if you’re dreaming.

Sometimes they’re actually more realistic than waking awareness.

Sometimes after an OBE you’ll find that your physical sight is actually hazy and dream-like compared to the hyper-detailed realism of the OBE. For example, a lot of times your vision will have what photographer’s call “high dynamic range” or HDR. HDR means that there is a higher range between the bright areas and the dark areas.

HDR is anything but dream-like and you might not think, at first, that you are in an OBE because your sight has so much detail.

Your sight may also seem like it has more pixels than when you were physically aware. In fact, these OBE’s should be called high-band-width experiences because of all the sensory information that you take in. This effect is compounded when you use the timer-method that we covered in Part 7.


{Part 7 is post 77 in page 4 of this thread}

Remember that the hypnotic-fractionation effect causes you to hover on the awake asleep thresh hold when you enter and exit trance over and over. The first couple of times you wake up and fall asleep it is relatively easy to tell if you’re non-physical or physical because it’s kind of a sloppy cycle and you swing wildly around between awake and asleep.

However

As the hypnotic-fractionation effect kicks in, the cycles start to get tighter and tighter.

The OBE’s start to become more and more realistic, eventually, it can become very difficult to tell if your waking-up in your physical bedroom or if you’re in an OBE.

(02:12)

This is called a “false awakening loop” in which you think you wake up but you end up in an OBE then you wake up again and end up in another OBE. It may take a couple tries before you really do wake up in your physical bedroom again. This is because you’ve started to spiral off-centre toward a non-physical focus.

(02:33)

What you need is a way to know if you’re in an OBE to wake up for real. Basically you need a way to take “the red pill” this is called “a reality check” and not just any reality check will do. You need to do a “movement free” reality check so you can do it without disturbing your trance.

In fact you need a set of reality checks because there is no single, silver bullet, reality check which is 100% reliable.

Here are the 4 most effective, most reliable and easiest reality checks that you can start using immediately. The four checks are:

First: The “Blindfold Test”

The “Transparent Eyelids check”

“Overlaid Sight” and

The “Spoon Bending Test”.

(03:09)

First is the “Blindfold Reality check” this is the easiest reality check of all. All you do is put on a blindfold and relax into sleep. If at any time you find you can see the room through the blindfold then you know you’re in a subconscious dream environment and you’re looking at the dream version of your room.

The advantage of this is that it’s simple and requires no practice.

Secondly, once it works there is no doubt in your mind that it really did work.

Also, it’s an ongoing reality check it’s not some thing that comes and goes in an instant

So

Here’s a way you can use the “Blindfold Test” for free OBE’s that require exactly zero work. The fact is you probably are already having many spontaneous morning OBE’s but don’t realize they’re OBE’s because you don’t have a system to catch when these happen. All you need you need to do is get in the habit of sleeping with a blindfold on.

When ever you wake up and are able to see you would have just gotten a free OBE with out doing any extra work.

As good as the “Blindfold Test” is, it does have its disadvantages. For instance, you may find that the blindfold is distracting and that it is hard to relax with it on. If you tried this method I do recommend getting a padded blindfold in the $20 to $30 range because I find the cheap ones are too uncomfortable to be of any real use.

(04:27)

The second disadvantage is “exit blindness”. (…)

Ok Dream Viewers

This video goes till (9:50) or (7:10) before the car salesman spiel happens.

But I need to get a nice soft, padded blindfold first so I can have a go at the above.

I found this one using google search at “sleepbuddy” it costs $26:75 AUD and the ad reads:

“Dreamer Sleepmask” (The very best Eye Mask on the market). For a Limited Time: receive a free Carry Pouch with every Dreamer mask purchased.

The Dreamer is a long time favourite of many Sleep Buddy customers; liked for its style, super comfort and ability to block light. The fabric that rests over the eye area on the face is plush, fully breathable, 100% cotton interlock padding. The masks feels great when on like it is custom made. The unique design of the dreamer allows it to block out the light with minimal pressure on your eyes. Perfect for day sleeps, travel or getting that extra couple of hours sleep once the sun is up.

I will let you Dream Viewers know when it arrives and how I go using it.

~3pm here (Monday 23-May-11)

Whoa, that much for a blindfold? You know there's OTHER RC's to do right? Like the old pinch your nose and breath/stick your finger through your hand? You don't need to buy a mask.

Everything here is available on this site for much less.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Whoa, that much for a blindfold? You know there's OTHER RC's to do right? Like the old pinch your nose and breath/stick your finger through your hand? You don't need to buy a mask.

Everything here is available on this site for much less.

I haven't purchased that blindfold yet cos the transfer of funds from my savings to my master card hadn't happened yesterday when I tried.

So

Have you got blindfold?

I want a comfy blind fold. Please link-me.

I will wait for a reply before I go ahead with buying the other one.

It is about 8am here now.

Originally Posted by debrajane

I haven't purchased that blindfold yet cos the transfer of funds from my savings to my master card hadn't happened yesterday when I tried.

So

Have you got blindfold?

I want a comfy blind fold. Please link-me.

I will wait for a reply before I go ahead with buying the other one.

It is about 8am here now.

No I don't have a blindfold, what I mean is that you don't need one for the sake of reality checking. There are may other methods that are free.

Fair enough if it helps you sleep, but for reality checking I wouldn't waste your money.

Originally Posted by Raspberry

No I don't have a blindfold, what I mean is that you don't need one for the sake of reality checking. There are may other methods that are free.

Fair enough if it helps you sleep, but for reality checking I wouldn't waste your money.

I got my sleep mask at Wal-Mart for three bucks. It has a monkey on it, and it came with a flashlight too.

As far as I'm concerned, this guy is no different from those who found a way to sell bottled water for a buck to people who can easily get it from fountains for free.























But I still prefer bottled water.

I actually signed up for this a while back. I subscribed to the e-mail thread, and all I ever got was spam saying to 'Buy Now! 50% off! Buy Now! Techniques for _____ (etc...)" I think that there may have been some notes struck here, but it is definitely for a monetary pursuit and not for a genuine spreading of lucid knowledge. I personally would discourage listening to these, but if you really feel like these could work, why not? Everyone is different. They may work, they may not. Definitely a cash cow, this one though.

A post man just delivered my "sleepbuddy.com.au" Dream Mask.

It is 10 am Wed 1-June-11 here in Adelaide, South Australia.

It is the first day of Winter.

I am so excited.

I feel like immature SWAN in that song:

There once was an ugly suckling
With feathers all shabby and brown
And in every place
They said to his face
Hiss, Hiss,
Get out of town

Hiss, Hisss, Get Out
Hiss, Hisss, Get Out
Hiss, Hisss, Get Out of town.

BUT

All through the winter-time
He hid himself away
Ashamed to show his face
Afraid of what others might say

All through the winter time in his lonely clump of weeds

Till a flock of swans spied him there and very soon agreed

YOUR A VERY FINE SEAN INDEED.

I am gonna practice hard all through the winter time of 2011 and by the

"Australian Spring Racing Carnival"

I will be able to leave my physical body at will and stand beside it.

Then I'll be cool

And

The IASD Main Forum

Will Unbann me.

Sleep Paralysis

This is a transcript of the first video I got from Nick back in 2008. It is now free, on YouTube. It is 17 minutes so I will put it in 4 four+ minute posts, here in your thread.

(00:08) In this section we are going to learn what is the easiest, most reliable and simplest way to enter into a subconscious focus without using any visualization. It's called "Sleep Paralysis". And we're going to learn what it is, how to enter it, and who to use it to have lots and lots of OBEs.

So what is sleep paralysis? Sleep paralysis is a protection mechanism your body uses when you fall asleep. If you were to dream of doing something very active, like running and you weren't in sleep paralysis then you would move your limbs when you were asleep and wake yourself up.

To prevent that from happening your body disconnects your voluntary muscles system from your mind so you can dream all you like without waking yourself up. Normaly you're not aware of that happening because by the time your body shuts itself down in sleep paralysis your mind has already fallen asleep and is unaware of what's happening.

In other words, you enter a state of "Body Awake, Mind Asleep", before entering, "Body Asleep, Mind Asleep".

(01:07) However, we're going to learn how to short circuit that process and keep your mind awake when your In sleep paralysis.

This is called, "Mind Awake, Body Asleep".

If you've read Robert Monroe's books he calls this state, "Focus Ten" or F10.

(1:25) its gone midnight here, in Adelaide, South Australia so I am off to bed.

Night-night.

Can't sleep, so here is a bit more

(01:25) So what does sleep paralysis have to do with lucid dreaming?

The whole trick to lucid dreaming is to enter a "subconscious focus" without losing awareness.

When you enter into sleep paralysis your body automatically sends your mind into a subconscious focus. You don't have to use any visualizations when you use this method because your body does it biologically.

Here is why this works

When you're awake you brain is in what's called a beta state."Beta" means that your dominant electrical brain waves are osilating at around 14 to 30 HZ per second.

When you enter sleep paralysis your brain automatically puts itself into dream mode, the theta state. Theta is slower than beta and is around 4 to 7 HZ. The upshot of all this is that you can use sleep paralysis to cause the brain to enter into a subconscious focus and you don't need to use any visualizations at all.

Simply knowing the tricks to entering waking paralysis is all you need, and that's what we're going to learn next.(02:18)

Morning

Here is a bit more of my first 17 minutes.

(02:18) So what does sleep paralysis feel like?

You're Stuck

The way you usually become aware of sleep paralysis is that you wake-up in it and you find that you can't move or make a sound. Sleep paralysis often feels like there's a heavy lead blanket on you.

{This can be scary but It's very useful!}

It's not that there is really anything on you or that your muscled have become weaker. The feeling is because your brain has to send a stronger nerve signal than normal to get get the same muscle movement. This makes it feel like you have to overcome some kind of resistance when you try to move.

This feeling also usually makes it feel like it's harder to breathe but it's actually a natural sleep process. Sleep paralysis happens every single you fall asleep. Here is why sleep paralysis is the "Holy Grail" for new OBEers.

Sleep paralysis is very unmistakable, once you enter it you cannot mis it. This is different from most things in lucid dreaming where everything is usually very subtle. Infact you've probably already had many OBEs and didn't realise it because you didn't know what to look for.

So

When your first starting out you should make sleep paralysis be your number one goal, not having a full blown OBE or lucid dream.


The reason is, is that when you have sleep paralysis you know for sure that you've made measurable progress.


Once you've achieved sleep paralysis you're not quite into a lucid dream or OBE, but your very close. (3:33)


(Breaking to eat now, it is 2:30pm Monday 6/6/11 here in Adelaide, South Australia.)