I had this idea too but instead of dreaming indefinitely I would ask to have a LD every time I start |
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A little while ago, when i first learned about lucid dreaming, i came across a number of websites that said one of the things you could do in a dream is personify your subconscious. Basically you could talk to yourself without any barriers and get some surprising answers. Anyway my question is, if you were able to somehow "meet" your subconsious (i use quotes because essentially it is you you're meeting), could you ask your subconsous to hold you in the dream, thereby prolonging it indefinitely? I'm nowhere near experienced enough to have the control to try this but if someone with more experience could try this and report back it might prove interesting. |
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I had this idea too but instead of dreaming indefinitely I would ask to have a LD every time I start |
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that would be awesome, def ask for when a dream starts that a DC always tells me i'm dreaming so that i can lucid everytime i dream. that would be crazy good! |
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You probably could prolong the dream, but not indefinitely, at least I don't see how you could. Eventually you'd get too hungry or thirsty or uncomfortable. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
I doubt you can prolong your dream longer than your REM is. |
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“Don't believe what your eyes are telling you. All they show is limitation. Look with your understanding, find out what you already know, and you'll see the way to fly.”
LD's: 171 (133 DILD, 2 WILD, 36 DEILD)
Nights in a row with atleast 1 Lucid Dream: 3
Most dreams remembered in 1 night: 16
Dreams recalled: 1308
But doesn't your sense of time get messed up when you're dreaming because your brain works faster or something? |
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According on research by Stephen Laberge, no. Time is the same in dream than waking state. |
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“Don't believe what your eyes are telling you. All they show is limitation. Look with your understanding, find out what you already know, and you'll see the way to fly.”
LD's: 171 (133 DILD, 2 WILD, 36 DEILD)
Nights in a row with atleast 1 Lucid Dream: 3
Most dreams remembered in 1 night: 16
Dreams recalled: 1308
Biologically speaking, probably not! But maybe the subconscious can prolong the dream. |
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I;ve definetly experienced time dilation, but it's not common, and not usually very extreme. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
i dont think thats quite what he was saying. he was testing whether time experienced in a regular lucid can be related to regular time. this is not quite the same as the subconscious ability to warp the perception of time. |
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Either way scientists technically can't be sure that dreams end when REM ends. Dream recall is definitely stronger when a sleeper is woken up straight after REM and some eye movements do correlate with dream events. But there's no way of being sure of whether or not the dream continues into non-REM for any period of time. |
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I read a study awhile back, it was regarding the idea that when you are in a traumatizing event time seems to slow down. They wondered if the brain is able to recognize the danger and go into overdrive and be able to process more information more quickly. However, they concluded that it is only the memory of the event that seems prolonged, not the event itself. The more you remember about a certain event the longer it appears to have happened to your brain. If after a day at work/school you start to remember many different things that happened during the day it feels like it was a long day. However if it was a fairly uneventful day and you only remember a few key parts, it seems like it was a much shorter day. The memory of the event is where time dilation occurs, not the event itself. |
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Last edited by LikesToTrip; 03-01-2011 at 08:50 PM.
But I think you cannot prolong REM. Some dreamers claim that they had a dream who seemed last a hundred years. Obviously they did not stay in the dream a hundred years. |
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Last edited by reere; 03-01-2011 at 10:28 PM.
“Don't believe what your eyes are telling you. All they show is limitation. Look with your understanding, find out what you already know, and you'll see the way to fly.”
LD's: 171 (133 DILD, 2 WILD, 36 DEILD)
Nights in a row with atleast 1 Lucid Dream: 3
Most dreams remembered in 1 night: 16
Dreams recalled: 1308
I've also wondered this. I want to talk to my subconscious and try to convince it into helping me get lucid more or something haha |
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I'm glad you've seen similar research to me. Perception of time is generally perceived determined on events that occur. For example 30 minutes of adverts on TV is easy to judge. However 30 minutes of one scene is harder to judge as it is difficult to break into multiple components. |
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