Learning how to do a handstand in a dream

[jamiealexander]

Haha, I know what your thinking, but I don't just want to learn a handstand inside the dream. I want to learn it inside a dream and be able to perform it in the real world. Here is an experiment I'm doing if you want to take a look - Learning My First Skill Inside A Dream And Transferring It Into The Real World The idea being that doing the handstand in the dream will acquire me the motor skills possible to perform it in reality. Do you think it's possible? Have you done anything like it before? Cheers

[Burke]

It's possible but I feel dreams can better transfer more technical things to waking life. For example anything involving complex nerve memory such as playing instruments or making hand gestures. However practicing a hand stand in a dream could help you get the motions down in waking life but it would be like preforming something in a laboratory and then trying to transfer it into the outside world. What I mean is say you are becoming a fingerprint examiner. You spend a few weeks in a controlled environment lifting prints, analyzing them, etc. Then when you go into an actual crime scene it will be a bit different from lifting the print in a lab. It will be very similar but not quite the same. What I'm trying to say is that it is possible for handstands though more complex motor skills seem like better candidates. However, if you do want to try a handstand it will help you in waking life but won't make you perfect at it.

[jamiealexander]

Thanks, Burke. It's good to know you think it's possible. This is my first experiment at transferring a skill over to the real world so I thought I'd start with an easy one, hence the handstand. I don't care if it's not perfect. If I could stay up for 10 seconds I know I'm making progress between the both worlds and can try more complicated stuff.

[EthicalEye]

yeah even Piano Players rehearse in Dreams. their 5 mins of rehearsals in Dream World is better or equal to 1 hour in Waking Life. The Brain is more active while dreaming and process Information Inputs very well. Just like "Inception". That's why they do it in Dreams not in waking Life.

[dms111]

yeah even Piano Players rehearse in Dreams. their 5 mins of rehearsals in Dream World is better or equal to 1 hour in Waking Life. No offense but that is not true. Like, at all.

[EthicalEye]

No offense but that is not true. Like, at all. why you say soo? It is Impossible to rehearse while Dreaming..?..I heard most famous musicians are Lucid Dreamers, Slavador Dali is probably the best example of what the creative mind can bring after sessions of lucid dreaming, William Blake or composers like Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner are also rumored to have explored the world of dreams in detail and rehearsing their plays in Dreams.

[EthicalEye]

And also....Being a virtual reality simulation, the lucid dream world is an ideal place to practice real life skills - from the perfect flying kick to playing classical piano. Research has revealed that we can increase our procedural memory for fine muscle movements inside a lucid dream. So, after practicing flying kicks for half an hour in a lucid dream, your kicks would literally be better upon waking. Likewise, in the book Exploring The World of Lucid Dreaming by Dr Stephen LaBerge and Howard Rheingold, a surgeon explains how, before going to sleep at night, he would review his surgical cases for the next day. Then he would become lucid in his dreams and practice them in precise detail. As a result, he was able to refine and polish his techniques and perform procedures much faster than the average surgeon. He credited his edge to lucid dreaming. source:Amazon.com: Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming (9780345374103): Stephen LaBerge, Howard Rheingold: Books

[dms111]

I was referring specifically to this... their 5 mins of rehearsals in Dream World is better or equal to 1 hour in Waking Life. which is not true. 5 minutes will not equal 1 hour. Inception is pure fiction. An artist drawing creative inspiration from dreams and lucid dreams is not the same as practicing a skill in a dream. Dali manipulated his dreams to give him ideas of what to paint. He didn't practice painting in dreams. Being a virtual reality simulation, the lucid dream world is an ideal place to practice real life skills - from the perfect flying kick to playing classical piano. It's not ideal. You learn a flying kick in real life by understanding exactly what your muscles are capable of doing while bound by the the laws of physics. There are no physics in dreams. Sure you can recreate them, but there's no way to know whether or not they are truly accurate. If your simulated dream physics aren't perfectly accurate then what you learn won't be accurate either. Playing piano is a little different. The piano is just the tool used to create musical notes. The musical notes themselves are intuitive. Anyone that has spent time listening to music knows what is musical and what isn't. In a dream you can eliminate the piano and just play the notes with your mind. You don't rely on physics in any way. Just your knowledge of the different notes and octaves on the piano. Likewise, in the book Exploring The World of Lucid Dreaming by Dr Stephen LaBerge and Howard Rheingold, a surgeon explains how, before going to sleep at night, he would review his surgical cases for the next day. Then he would become lucid in his dreams and practice them in precise detail. As a result, he was able to refine and polish his techniques and perform procedures much faster than the average surgeon. He credited his edge to lucid dreaming. It's been a while since I read that book, but here's my take on the surgeons explanation. Surgery involves many small tasks that must be performed in the correct order. The surgeon in his dream was not practicing the finesse required to perform the tasks but the order in which they must be done. Just because he credited his edge to lucid dreaming doesn't mean it actually gave him one. Using lucid dreams to practice physical skills is still just a theory, and I believe that is how it was presented in the LaBerge book. Not proven. Just an interesting idea. If your lucid dream is an exact model of reality then yes, I think you could do physical practice that translates to reality. But realistically how often do you have a lucid dream that is not only an exact model of reality but maintains that exactness for a length of time? And if the exactness falters would you even know it?

[Tmerson]

Jamie, I respect the fact that you took the time to post this and also make the page explaining it in detail. Your idea is great as it's productive and positive. I believe it can give someone confidence at the very least to perform that hand stand. Great job!