Thread: Avoiding flouride?

I've never heard that flouride can reduce one's chances to LD. I'm a bit skeptical about the validity of that idea, since lucidity is more of a mental/meditation thing than anything else. And this is just a bit of an anecdotal contribution, but I have always used toothpaste with fluoride in it and still had many LDs, so perhaps it was a bit of a placebo effect?

Well I have heard that flouride is very harmful and damages parts of your brain that deal with imagination and dreaming so it makes sense. However, toothpaste shouldn't be a problem since it is something that is good for your teeth, as long as you make sure not to swallow any of it.

Originally Posted by siuol

Well I have heard that flouride is very harmful and damages parts of your brain that deal with imagination and dreaming so it makes sense. However, toothpaste shouldn't be a problem since it is something that is good for your teeth, as long as you make sure not to swallow any of it.

[citation needed]

Seriously, though. I'm curious if there is any truth to this. Might even be a placeholders, for all we (seem) to know.

Originally Posted by madvorak

Hi there!

Since I read that flouride lowers chances for LDs, I have been using flouride-less toothpaste. I avoid food with much flouride, too. In first 2 weeks after the change, I had a lot of LDs and some were really good.
Unfortunately, the frequency has returned to normal now. Now I have WILDs instead of DILDs and they are very short and bad.

I don't know if I should continue to avoid flouride. How much do you think it impacts LDing? Do you avoid flouride? If you do, how did your LDing change? Do you think it could hurt my teeth? I am trying to brush my teeth more carefully to compensate it.

Thx for your answers.

Originally Posted by siuol

Well I have heard that flouride is very harmful and damages parts of your brain that deal with imagination and dreaming so it makes sense. However, toothpaste shouldn't be a problem since it is something that is good for your teeth, as long as you make sure not to swallow any of it.

*Fluoride.

In short, I have the tendency to believe that fluoride in very low concentrations such as those of water and toothpaste have no effect on the human body at all.

First of all, when you use toothpaste you don't swallow it, you spit it out after use, so there isn't any danger to the human body in that respect. Second, in terms of water fluoridation which is usually the main concern of fluoride, there is no evidence that the chemical is dangerous in extremely low concentrations in water. There is currently no scientific evidence that supports claims that low concentrations of fluoride lower IQ, cause cancer, cause submissive behavior, increase stress, is a neo-nazi plot, etc. In terms of my own experience, I haven't experienced any differences in my behavior or dreams having moved from The Netherlands (no water fluoridation), to Canada (water fluoridation).

The interesting thing is, I'm actually against water fluoridation; not for health reasons but for environmental reasons because water fluoridation is not sustainable environmentally.

It has to do with the Pineal gland

Many people believe that the pineal gland is a key factor on lucid dreaming, since it's related so sleeping patterns among other things. It is said by some that fluoride harms the pineal gland, by effectively "calcify" it. In some videos I've even saw reports of old egypcians pharaoh's children that had extremely pineal gland. Fake? Most likely if you ask me, especially since there's this sort of conspiration that the fluoride presented on the public water is just a mean to decrease the "awareness and lucidity" to the true nature of reality by the ordinary people. Once again, this is information you can find around the web, so I wouldn't take it too seriously. See this video for more information:



Like said above, lucid dreaming is mostly mental, a exercise of will and determination. People with bad sleeping habits can have lucids, and what most likely happened to you was the placebo effect that gave you that nice streak.

I think you would be fine to continue using it. If you do have a change in your LDs after you start using it again, please let us know. It sounds interesting?

If you really want to pull out the tinfoil hats...

Avoid anything with wheat. Wheat's gliadin protein can pass the blood barrier and is an exorphin.

Fun exercise... for a full week, avoid any wheat. It really is harder then you think, because wheat is in EVERYTHING nowadays...
When that week has passed, go on a wheat binge. eg: Cereal for breakfast, hotdogs on buns for lunch, pizza for supper... whatever wheat manufactured snacks you want...

You will know the effect then. It is like you have a brain fog.

Originally Posted by OrionStyles

If you really want to pull out the tinfoil hats...

Avoid anything with wheat. Wheat's gliadin protein can pass the blood barrier and is an exorphin.

Fun exercise... for a full week, avoid any wheat. It really is harder then you think, because wheat is in EVERYTHING nowadays...
When that week has passed, go on a wheat binge. eg: Cereal for breakfast, hotdogs on buns for lunch, pizza for supper... whatever wheat manufactured snacks you want...

You will know the effect then. It is like you have a brain fog.

Tried it for a week actually because one of my mates challenged me. F-ing sucks. I didn't experience anything different except a craving for a slice of pizza throughout the week.

I don't believe it's a factor worth considering unless, I haven't heard of it impairing dreaming.
Although I would like to believe the pineal gland is used for reaching the 'higher' stuff, I did some research and apparently it's just an old organ used when we needed to detect light and we didnt have these lovely organs for seeing now!