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    Thread: The Next Level of Dream Recall; Less nightmares, more lucids!

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      Lightbulb The Next Level of Dream Recall; Less nightmares, more lucids!

      (Sorry if this is in the wrong section)

      You know the dream recall method where you repeat "I will remember all dreams when I wake up" in your head? You can almost never have nightmares by tweaking this method slightly! Instead of...

      I will remember all dreams when I wake up.
      You do this...

      I will remember all positive dreams when I wake up.
      I do this each night! I have yet to remember a single nightmare!
      Considering that this works, I'm sure we can do even more with it. For example, if someone wanted to remember a few nightmares...

      I will remember all nightmares when I wake up.
      Who knows what else we could do by messing around with this method? The possibilities are endless!!!
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      thats a great idea!! or you could stand your ground and face your fear in the nightmare and ask it what it represents and then you wont have them anymore.

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      Quote Originally Posted by samedi View Post
      or you could stand your ground and face your fear in the nightmare and ask it what it represents and then you wont have them anymore.
      True, but with this solution you can do much more than forget a nightmare; think about it! With some experimenting, you could limit how many dreams you recall, or maybe limit what kind of dreams you can recall! There are plenty of possibilities!

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      im sorry but i cant see the piont in decreasing your dream recall by telling sourself not to remember certain dreams.

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      Here are some examples:

      I will remember all interesting dreams when I wake up
      I will remember all funny dreams when I wake up
      I will only remember lucid dreams when I wake up
      ...and it's not just limiting our dream recall. For example:

      I will remember at least 10 dreams when I wake up
      I will remember all dreams for 2 weeks after I wake up
      ...and there could be so many more possibilities, we just need to experiment!

      Also, this just improves the dream recall method. That way, we can experiment as we desire and not even have to worry about increased nightmares. I can imagine that good dream recall = more nightmares. This is the solution. It doesn't stop nightmares, but it makes them much less common.
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      Remember 10 dreams when you wake up my ass.
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      I am quite doubtful that such a thing is possible as well, but you never know. Even if it wouldn't work, keep in mind that it was a mere example.

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      An interesting innovation that could help many people.

      Thanks for sharing this with us!

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      your right xxlhyxx it does have many possibilitys. and i read somewhere to we have around 7 dreams in one night. but 5 is the most ive recalled in one night.

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      I give you credit for trying out new things and seeing what works for you best. Honestly different things work for different folks. I don't know if this would necessarily work for me, but I am always thinking and coming up with new ways of remember dreams.

      Recently I've found that all through my days when certain thoughts come to mind I am suddenly able to connect a certain element in that thought to a dream during the previous night. I am now thinking of creating a video with various images where I can just play it during the day and see if any of those random images can suddenly help me recollect anything from the previous nights dreams.

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      I've got huge news; we're about to take this a LOT further.

      Here's my idea:

      Usually, by "all dreams" we just want to remember at least two random ones. I'm not sure how easy or hard this would be, but when doing the dream recall method, instead of tweaking the message you repeat in your head, try to define what you mean by "all dreams." I have only tested it once so far, but it seemed to work fine.

      I like to put things in order. Put lucid dreams first. If I have a lucid dream, REMEMBER IT. Then I put interesting dreams second. If I don't have any lucid dreams, then I'll just remember all non-lucids in order by how significant/interesting they are. I managed to do this successfully last night, but not very effectively. Anyway, the trick is keeping your intent fixed in your mind. If you just define it and then let your mind wander away from it, I doubt this will be effective.

      I'm going to need all the help I can get with this. The more we test, the better. If you guys could, it would be extremely helpful if you test this out a few times and report back with the results. Thanks!

      As a side note, I would like to mention that this method might be capable of doing stuff like inducing lucid dreams, but I need to look further into it first.
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      It's a nice idea, but I wouldn't use :S

      I think that we are learning to have LDs exactly to be able of fighting our nightmares.

      One of my biggest fear is fear of spiders and I already had some nightmares with them... My plan is just coming back to that dream and become friend of that scary spider, maybe summon some flies and give them to the spider ...

      Lets suppose I have 6 dreams a night (thats about what I use to remember that I had).
      If I have 2 nightmares in this night, I will be compelled to recall only 4 dreams that night, its 30% of my recall and I don't want to see my chances of a DILD being cutted in 30% !
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rubens View Post
      Lets suppose I have 6 dreams a night (thats about what I use to remember that I had).
      If I have 2 nightmares in this night, I will be compelled to recall only 4 dreams that night, its 30% of my recall and I don't want to see my chances of a DILD being cutted in 30% !
      That's where the "listing" part comes in. You can put lucid dreams at the top of the "list." You will remember your LD first, and it will also be clearer than the rest of your dreams. If you don't have any lucid dreams, then you will recall the most interesting dream you had, as well as some others. This way, your chance of having a LD does not decrease. In fact, it may even increase.

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      That's not my point. As I said I use mainly the DILD and DEILD techniques, if I forgot my dream (or nightmare) I won't be able to come back to it after waking up (I won't remember it)
      And I want to use my dreams for more than just having some fun during the night (as LaBerge said, it yould be a waste of such a powerful weapon), I want to know myself deeply, and nobody is pure good, we have our bad side there in the darkest places of our hearts and minds.

      I realised that I only stop fearing something when I stand and fight my fears. I remember when I was a kid, how I used to fear dark places, I never had courage to go inside a dark place alone, and how much I suffered with that ? But one day I decided that I wouldn't fear the dark anymore, I walked slowly through that dark room, I was very scared at first, but then I saw that there were nothing in the dark that could do any harm to me, now I don't have any problem in passing trough a dark place.

      That's why I don't want to ignore the nightmares, if they want to come, here I am waiting for them, to fight them, understand what they mean, what can I do to fix the situation and win


      But I think that your technique is pretty good, and really may work if the person believe and want it to

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      That is very true, however this method is much more than just preventing nightmares. It can help with recalling lucid dreams, and it won't prevent nightmares unless you actually want it to. You could even put a specific nightmare at the top of the list so you could face it head-on. What's even better is that you'd remember it with stunning clarity.

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      Yep, I agree with this, the listing you said may work very well and I think I'll try it

      I don't know if it would make much difference for me because I wake up naturally after almost all my dreams, but I think it only can make my recall better, then I think it worths.
      I recall about 4 or 5 dreams per night, but I always have that one or two that I don't remember well (and maybe they were supposed to be the most interesting).

      I'll try to see if something happens
      Anything I tell you or post here.

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      So far, this method is doing amazing things for me. I just had my most vivid DILD so far last night using the "Listing" method.

      Hope this trick works for you.

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      This is a really interesting idea! When did you start doing this? Sounds like it could be useful, although I probably wouldn't use it to forget nightmares (when I have a nightmare, my subconscious is trying to tell me something important lol).

      Thanks for sharing!

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      Quote Originally Posted by ErikaEH View Post
      When did you start doing this?
      The very first night I tried the dream recall method, I was afraid it would not only help with remembering dreams but help with remembering nightmares as well. I didn't want that, as I've already had a huge deal of nightmares from a few years back. So, I added my own little twist to it and hoped for the best. Sure enough, it worked like a charm. That pretty much leads up to now. I've joined the community here at DV and expanded my idea by huge amounts.

      TL;DR I started doing it the first night I tried to do dream recall.


      Also:

      Quote Originally Posted by ErikaEH View Post
      When I have a nightmare, my subconscious is trying to tell me something important.
      I'm sure you could easily make a workaround for this using the listing method.

      Speaking of which, here are my recent results from the listing method:

      Whatever dream makes #1 on the list will have mind-blowing clarity and vividness. The problem is that for me it will be like this if I don't define the vividness. This results in all other dreams being so blurry you'll be lucky if you remember any of them. I suspect it varies from person to person, so everybody will get different results if they don't define the vividness. However, I'm 99% sure that if this dream recall method works for you, then the listing trick will work.

      It is quite likely that some will only have to define the actual list, while others will have to be ultra-specific to obtain the desired results. This is actually a good thing because it opens up a lot of room to experiment. The bad part is that it makes stuff much more complicated depending on what you're trying to achieve. If you just want to forget nightmares, then that's easy. If you want a full-blown list, it might be a bit harder. However, the result is well worth it IMO.

      EDIT: Has anybody gotten this to work yet? If you even get it partially working, it would really help if you posted here and let me know!
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