God Blackout

[darkblue]

The last two times I was lucid dreaming I asked to see divinity. In the first lucid dream I immediately realized I was awake and said, " I want to see God now!" there was an immediate blackout and I awoke. I was angry and frustrated. Then last night again I immediately asked to see my guardian angel whose name is Saraphina. And again...nothing...a blackout...but this time I fought waking up by simply stating...I want to go to another planet. Well that seemed fine and I had a beautiful experience as mentioned in the above post. But again, I was disappointed that my angel...who I have had a spiritual dream about before...did not accompany me. I do not understand why not! Is God, Divinity, Angels, The Great Mystery really in fact the darkness, the void, the nothingness from which all creativity and creation manifests? Is my angel only a pretend being that I created from my own mind for comfort? Is God in all and everything but what we call God really just the pure potentiality of uncreated space?

[Ichorid]

Well this is quite a deep topic, the word God means different things for different people. To comment on your experience, I think that people get too emotional when flying in the heavens / trying to meet God, thus ending the dream abruptly. I suggest you try something more mild but powerful nonetheless. When you get lucid, look up and shout "I want to feel unconditional love" or even better "I want to BE unconditional love" and really feel it. See where that gets you. You can replace unconditional love with whatever resonates within you, this was just an example. Hope that helps.

[darkblue]

Oh I love this idea. I will try this next time. Thank you so much. And yes...maybe it is too much to handle or beyond my comprehension...to see Divinity. I never thought about it being too emotional but perhaps you are right. Thinking of the emotion I have divested in this ravenous ache for a glimpse of this God...a meeting....dang it...show yourself to me. I am rather at a frustrated and impatient spot in my spiritual life. I feel like a toddler demanding for this God to show him/her/itself to me because I have to have a Higher Power to work A.A. 's 12 steps or I might get drunk again. I feel pressure to find what is rather illusive yet all at once everywhere. Everywhere and nowhere. Coming up on 60 days and teetering between not understanding anything and trying to find something! The emotional burst can do a blackout...eh. I am learning so much here. So glad to have people to talk to instead of the raised eyebrows I usually get. Thanks.

[darkblue]

Oh my. A revelation has occurred. I have lived in an ashram in India with an enlightened yogi, trekked the Himalayans, lived in a redwood forest with a group of Thai Forest Buddhist monks, studied and tried to live the Tao, been involved in A course in miracle study groups, and that other other one...conversations with God groups, studied all sorts of metaphysics, been a Wiccan, an Asatru, a rune singer, a tarot reader, qi gong, healing modalities, telepathically channelled angels....and on and on....always seeking...always searching....but I always found something not quite true....except for my lucid dream experiences. I have NEVER gotten as much out of any spiritual belief or practice as I have 'the dreams.' I have never experienced such a deep and penetrating connection to spirituality as I have with the dream lessons. I will make lucid dreams or whatever it is that is behind them my Higher Power! Thank you. I am tingling head to toe...and it has been there with me since I was a little girl...always opening my eyes to unconditional love, healing and peace!

[darkblue]

Wonder what would happen in a lucid dream if I said, " I want to BE God!" then I could experience it fully. Or is that grossly arrogant? Perhaps again...too emotional? Honestly, I loathe the 'God' word. I know, I get stuck on semantics. But as a poet...words are important to me. Although I am discovering my spelling is mediocre at best! Ok I am getting strange. I will meditate and go to bed now. Good night to all my new and wonderful fellow travelers!

[Caenis]

Wonder what would happen in a lucid dream if I said, " I want to BE God!" then I could experience it fully. Or is that grossly arrogant? Perhaps again...too emotional? Honestly, I loathe the 'God' word. I know, I get stuck on semantics. But as a poet...words are important to me. Although I am discovering my spelling is mediocre at best! Ok I am getting strange. I will meditate and go to bed now. Good night to all my new and wonderful fellow travelers! Well, you basically are the god of your own dreamworld. I see nothing wrong with outright asking to become god. In fact, I think it would prove to be quite fascinating or insightful! I say go for it. Maybe if you're still timid, you can request to feel god's presence instead? There's a lot you can do with this topic. I agree that the unconditional love request is a good idea. I'm glad you're so excited about this, darkblue. If you experience anything interesting or unexpected, feel free to keep us updated.

[Ichorid]

It's a good thing to believe in an external force, but never forget that you are part of it... You have it within you as well. I got the idea of the previous post from a book on exploring yourself through lucid dreaming that I think you'll find very useful. It's called Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self by Robert Waggoner. Peace and goodnight

[Shelli]

Perhaps waking up was your answer: You are God.

[darkblue]

If we are all Gods....then what would be the power greater than myself that would keep me from picking up a beer when that strange mental obsession comes over me and I think to myself...oh I can handle it this time...or I'll just have one! Yeah right! I've never just had one! To be honest with you, I think just going to the meetings and hanging around sober people and staying connected to them is doing the job. I do think God or whatever it is, is in everyone and speaks to me through others....like even you all here, in the meetings, sometimes a child in a grocery store, sometimes a bird or a leaf spinning, or the moon. But when I told my sponsor that I was making the choice not to drink she said that self-will, will power and knowledge will not keep me sober. It is easy to stop drinking, but hard to stay stopped for a long time. I have made it 4 times, for 2 1/2 years each time and I always started back up when I quit going to meetings and staying connected with other people who are recovering and trying to stay clean and sober. So she said I could say God meant 'good orderly direction' or even 'group of drunks,' which is recovering alcoholics! Whatever! But if We are all God...where is a Higher Power than us? A.A. Is susposed to be a simple program for complicated people and I mind ffck it a lot....because there again...is it ultimate truth? So I will first try the unconditional love thing in my next lucid because I think the very word God stirs up disturbing images of a childhood God that has a long beard and lives in the clouds. Wish I could erase that image! Maybe I am Agnostic. I mean I do believe our minds are untapped potential...extraordinary Vehickles for creative manifestation and I can see it through lucid dreaming. That yogi told me our minds to us at this point were likened to gleefully driving an airplane slowly down a runway....we are so tickled we can travel down the pavement on those little wheels....But he said...what we don't realize....is that that plane, (or mind) can FLY! Ok so maybe I will go for it and ask to BE GOD and see what happens! Someone else wanna' try with me? Pleeeeeease! I will keep you updated. Unfortunately my dreams are always spontaneous but I have a way to get into trance mode. There has been so much chaos at home though, with a sick and recovering addict, bipolar husband and 3 hospitalizations for him in 3 weeks that I may find it difficult to have a bit of peace to try! I can only do it late in afternoon as I'm too revved up in mornings. However I have found that trauma and stress boost the lucids! Sorry to write so much. Hope I did not get off too far off topic. But everything is interrelated!