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      Inconsistency and focus for beginner

      This is my first post here even though I have been reading the forum for a few weeks! Here is a little back drop.

      I have experienced sleep paralysis since I was a child; I never knew what was going on until a few years ago. I can into sleep paralysis during the middle of the day if I nap, but I cannot be focused on it or becoming lucid. My problems are:

      1.On the onset of going into (SP) my heart races and my breathing changes, and I cannot go into it.

      2.I cannot seem to go into (SP) to lucid dream at night, I ALWAYS just fall asleep, and if I focus to hard on maintaining consciousness I cannot sleep.

      Generally I read that you are supposed to focus on images or sensations, how can you focus without becoming too focused and not being able to sleep?
      Thanks!

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      This SP that you are talking about is a SP in a dream or a awake SP??

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      The only way to become good at WILD without becoming excited is practice.

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      Quote Originally Posted by GuitarShot100 View Post
      This SP that you are talking about is a SP in a dream or a awake SP??
      It is the awake type, and practice huh? Any tips for this?

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      Unless you want to enter SP for the sake of experiencing SP, there is no need to focus on SP. Not everybody is aware when in paralysis, although everybody gets it, when dreaming.

      So you will get into SP when time is right, whether you try getting into it or not and whether you are aware of it or not.

      Your goal really should be to fall asleep while staying aware. It's a delicate balancing act. Too much awareness - you will not fall asleep, too little - you fall asleep unaware.

      The best thing you can do is to familarize yourself with every step of WILDing and understanding why is stuff happening and what it is. And best place to do that is WILD class in DV Academy. You don't have to participare if don't want to, you can read the lessons without registering. Happy dreams

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      Update: So last nite I set some of those alarms that self cancel, and I don't remember it going off; but when I woke up this morning I remember sitting up in my bed and drinking hot tea out of a cup I had on the night stand. The thing is I didn't have anything in the cup, so I figured it was a false awakening, i just didn't realize it until I got up again. Is this a good sign??

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      Noticing FAs means, that you are starting to be more aware of your dreams and the whole process around them. And that is a good sign.

      Get into habit of RCing every time you get up from bed. So hopefully, you will RC in your FA and realize you dreaming.

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      I agree with the previous posts ^^

      You might be interested in reading this as well: http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/compre...alysis-126975/

      Maybe it's a dream and if I scream, it will burst at the seams.

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      i have kind of the same problem, i have experience SP 3/4 times but can never get into a lucid dream. This morning i woke up from a dream and blinked really fast without meaning to and my body was just filled with crazy sensations and tingling which i thought was the SP, and i thought i had just done a DEILD? (correct me if im wrong) so i was kind of excited, then its just stopped and i was just lying there with my eyes closed like i just woke up. Also when im trying to WILD, sometimes it takes like an hour and a half of me just laying completely still listening to binural beats for me to get SP and then i still dont get into a lucid dream, other times ill be waiting ages and nothing happens so i decide to just give up and go to sleep normally, any advice?

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      Quote Originally Posted by joshuwa View Post
      i have kind of the same problem, i have experience SP 3/4 times but can never get into a lucid dream. This morning i woke up from a dream and blinked really fast without meaning to and my body was just filled with crazy sensations and tingling which i thought was the SP, and i thought i had just done a DEILD? (correct me if im wrong) so i was kind of excited, then its just stopped and i was just lying there with my eyes closed like i just woke up. Also when im trying to WILD, sometimes it takes like an hour and a half of me just laying completely still listening to binural beats for me to get SP and then i still dont get into a lucid dream, other times ill be waiting ages and nothing happens so i decide to just give up and go to sleep normally, any advice?
      Yes, as you say, that would have been a DEILD. But DEILD works, only if you lucky enough and you remember not to move at all and you don't start thinking about things you need to do that day. You pretty much need to stay in that half asleep state. If you give your body any indication that you woke up, it will end the SP and you don't get the DEILD.

      As for WILDing, I recommend you read the Academy class. There is so much more to WILDing than just laying there. Happy dreams

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      Update: So I haven’t had a FA but I am remembering more and more of my dreams after recording them in my dream journal. I look at an object of something familiar in real life, and it triggers a dream memory I had previously that night or if I had a nap. It’s down to about 2 or 3 dreams a day

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gotenks64 View Post
      Update: So I haven’t had a FA but I am remembering more and more of my dreams after recording them in my dream journal. I look at an object of something familiar in real life, and it triggers a dream memory I had previously that night or if I had a nap. It’s down to about 2 or 3 dreams a day
      2-3 dreams a night is a very good recall. Noticing FAs is just a by-product of awareness training. If you don't have FAs, that's OK.

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      Update: I think I had a LD lastnite! Before I went to sleep I said." When i see my hands I will realize I am dream." I believe I had a DEILD because I remember waking up; then I saw my hands and moved them on my own and said this is weird because I am sleeping right now. The whole experiences lasted for probably 30 seconds. Also the dream kind of fuzzy, is this normal? How do I gain more clarity?

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      That sounds more like an FA. But I can't say for sure. For a DEILD, you would have to wake up from a dream and enter another one within few seconds. If you knew you are dreaming, that's a lucid, all right.
      Congrats!

      Your lucids could be of different clarity each time, that's normal. It depends on your level of awareness.

      You can try and yell out loud "Clarity Now", "Lights Now", or anything like that that you need. Also, check out some tutorials . Happy dreams

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