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      Question Can't fully become numb - and psychosis?

      My first question is in regards to becoming paralyzed - or numb.
      I have only tried to become lucid in my dreams a few times (though, never falling asleep!).
      The first time was a long time ago, and I never fell asleep.

      Yesterday I tried lucid dreaming. It started with a feeling of lightness in my legs.
      This occurred after some few minutes. This quickly came in my hands as well.
      I tried this during the day, after having slept too long.
      I waited for 40 minutes (literally) without interruption. Nothing changed. I was ONLY numb in my feet (and up until legs), and in my hands (and up until my arm parting).
      After the 40 minutes had passed, I decided to stop it since it had taken too long, and nothing was happening.
      It felt extremely good, having relaxed for 40 minutes.. but no lucid dreaming.

      Then I tried today, at 2 in the morning (02:00 - figure that out, Americans).
      What happened was that my feeling of my legs being light actually turned into an insane numbness. Like my legs were sleeping.
      After having waited 10 minutes or so, I became numb all the way up until some 10 centimeters from my crotch (I have very long legs - 2 meters tall.)

      No matter how long I waited, I couldn't get my numbness to reach my chest.
      Can anyone explain why this is so? Even after 40 minutes - no numbness in my chest.


      My other question is in regards to psychosis.
      I have been diagnosed with a type of psychosis - which means I am not delusional, I have not lost contact with reality (though, I have a VERY intense case of derealization and partial depersonalization.)
      I DO hear voices some times. These voices are not "real-like". It's not like I think, "Oh my, someone is talking to me.."
      It's difficult to explain.
      My question is whether anyone with psychosis knows if lucid dreaming is going to be odd when one suffers from this disorder.
      Oh, and just a reminder for people: psychosis can be derived from nutritional deficiencies, psychical illness (seizures, bacteria infections, etc.), and MANY other things. My own psychosis has nothing to do with brain disorders - or chemical imbalance thereof.
      I do not take any anti psychotic medications!

      Can anyone be so kind to explain these things to me? Thanks in advance.
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      Sorry, but I don't know, how will your condition influence lucid dreaming, or vice versa. Perhaps your physician, or a psychologist who knows about lucid dreaming would be able to help you.

      Now, as far as numbness is concerned. Good news is, that you don't have feel that when you trying to WILD. Everybody will have different experience, but it's normal not to feel any sensations. I generally feel, just like my legs/body is relaxing, and sometimes like they are little bit heavy.

      But the sensations in your body is not what you should be concentrating on. Here is a great tutorial in Sageouse's WILD class. It's long, but if you want to WILD, it will explaine everything in plain English. Happy dreams

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      Hey there. I suffer from psychosis. I hear and see things and sometimes I can lose contact with reality. I have a lot of voices and they have been with me for 8 years now. For me I find it hard to get lucid because well...doing reality checks are hard when you can't always tell whats real and whats not, heh. However I find that when I get lucid it actually helps me deal with my psychosis. I can spend time with my hallucinations (one of which I consider my best friend) and I find this very helpful as it gives me a chance to really talk to them and explore my own world with them and figure out what they represent. They are pretty much fragmented parts of myself and so when I have a chance to get in touch with my subconscious it helps me figure out what part of me they represent and where they come from and how I can use this to my advantage. My lucid dreams aren't weird in anyway and I imagine it's not that much different to someone who isn't going through the same experience.
      Good luck
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      I can't comment on the psychosis part, but from the first part it seems like you've attempted lucid dreaming twice?

      My advice would be to be patient, it's going to take most people weeks and sometimes months to get the hang of it and get control.
      It sounds like you are on the right track.

      I started lucid dreaming 5 years ago and I'm still lucky if I can hold one for longer than a few mins, I have practiced some of the techniques here to assist with that but I'm lucky that it came natural to me.

      If you want to be a regular lucid dreamer it's likely going to take a bit of work, start off by writing a dream journal (you can use the DJ on this site). Secondly, do reality checks all day to make sure that you know you are awake. Once you start to do these in your dreams you will find it easier to become lucid. Or if you hit a, "Am I dreaming or not?" moment, you know to do your reality check and once it's confirmed away you go.

      SImple reality check:
      Set an alarm for every hour, when it goes off, look at your hands and then try and stretch one of your fingers. In your dream hands often look weird and if you can stretch your finger, you know you are dreaming.

      Good luck

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
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      Thanks for the information. Will read through the link provided.

      Quote Originally Posted by MRH92 View Post
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      I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone on this forum.

      I am assuming that you have a schizophrenic type of psychosis - correct me if I am wrong.
      My own psychosis is nothing like schizophrenia. I actually know what is real and what on the contrary is not - which makes one wonder if I even have psychosis, since psychosis is characterized as not knowing the difference.

      I took Risperdone (anti psychotic) for a month or so. Risperdone blocked the neurotransmitter dopamine, and although I had many side-effects (numbness, low heart rate, restless legs, strong anxiety, etc.), the only "change" in my psychosis was that I now did not sleep as much as I did before.

      Every time I am about to try WILD, while about to relax, I feel that my hallucinations tend to get strong - very strong. However, concentration actually helps to remove my hallucinations... which doesn't make sense, as my hallucinations are a part of the stimulus my brain generates from its surroundings.

      I would like to know, just for curiosity sake: do you also have it like this, that when it's raining, or when you are frying bacon on a pan - that constant repeating noise ("schhhhzzzzzz") actually begins to sound like voices after a while?
      This is how my psychosis is. All the people in the mental institution who suffered from psychosis had an identical type to mine. Some had used weed - which induced it - while others just "received it."

      Quote Originally Posted by thebigm View Post
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      Actually, I've tried it more than three times now. When I say try - I mean attempt. I haven't actually ever become lucid, with the exception of in my childhood, I had one very vague lucid dream about a trauma from abuse earlier that year.

      Thanks for the advice. Greatly appreciated. Just a question, won't the alarm wake me up?

      Should anyone be wondering, I had to remove the text in the quotes for it to fit my screen..

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      I mean set some kind of alarm for when you are awake.

      When it goes off you check that you are not dreaming.....look at your hands, observe your surroundings, try and stretch your finger.
      Of course, because you are not dreaming it won't work....but once you are in a dream state these habits might be carried in and when you look at your hands and they are weird....or you stretch your finger and it stretches, you know you are in a dream.

      It's also a handy tool for when you become lucid, do these reality checks just to make sure.

      Good luck.

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      Well doctors struggle to put me into a certain category-schizophrenic,bipolar, etc. I've been many things over the years, heh so they simply put me as having psychosis.
      I cant say that repetitive noises start to sound like voices. Perhaps in the early stages it did but now I just hear the same three voices all the time and they are very clear and do sound like real people in the room with me. My psychosis isn't down to drugs either. It's just one of those things that seemed to just happen. Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions regarding it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MRH92 View Post
      Well doctors struggle to put me into a certain category-schizophrenic,bipolar, etc. I've been many things over the years, heh so they simply put me as having psychosis.
      I cant say that repetitive noises start to sound like voices. Perhaps in the early stages it did but now I just hear the same three voices all the time and they are very clear and do sound like real people in the room with me. My psychosis isn't down to drugs either. It's just one of those things that seemed to just happen. Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions regarding it.
      Ironically, the doctor I [was] seeing did not have any problem with immediately diagnosing it.

      My psychosis have gotten much better over the span of the months which have been since I obtained it.
      In the beginning, I had intense psychotic and anxiety-related attacks where I thought I'd end up killing someone--which may or may not scare the reader.
      Now I can sleep with my door closed; I can do everything I could before.. I still sometimes tend to have auditory hallucinations.

      I know you say that your psychosis has nothing to do with drugs (where you're probably meaning things like weed), however, according to psychiatry, all types of psychosis is related to drug issues - in this case, it's the overproduction of neurotransmitters, or related to such.
      I am of course not a neurologist or anything of that sort, so it's better that you read it for yourself to avoid me misinterpreting things.
      I strongly advice you to try to take 'enough' vitamin D and niacin for a month. I can assure you that you will at the very least feel just a bit better. I know personally that I got somewhat better from this.
      There's actually many types of things which can induce psychosis, such as a vitamin deficiency or bacterias--which I mentioned in the OP.

      Of course, some people prefer their psychosis. I am not sure whether you are one of these people - speaking from my own viewpoint, I'd rather not be psychotic.

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      Heh well after 8 years I doubt I'm gonna completely recover although I have made a lot of improvements. My reason for developing psychosis as I did was not through lack of vitamins or any kind of bacteria. It's a long story but it's not related to that.
      Although I do suffer greatly from it it also has its positive aspects, as does everything, so really it's not a matter of ridding myself of it but simply having more control and talking through with my voices to see what they want and how we can work together.
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