Thread: Which LD technique is more effective: SSILD or WILD?

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Care to tell me what the correct forum is? I'm a newbie so...

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Originally Posted by BananaWackeys

Just wondering. It's the weekend and i've had a shítty week, so a LD would really cheer me up.
As for the WILD, i just can't seem to get into sleep paralysis or go into a dream consciously :/ as for the SSILD (not SILD, those two are different), i've not tried it yet. Anyone tried both before that wants to share their knowledge?

WILD technique is difficult to master at first. If you are new to LD like me and you want an effective technique which is easy to master i would recommended a two part method. During the day you should use all day awareness with reality checks. Their are many tutorials on this sight showing how to use all day awareness. Then you should use the wake back to bed method combined with MILD or SSILD. Wake up around 3:30 and try either technique then try again when you wake up in the morning. personally MILD works the best for the first few attempts but for me it stopped working after the first 2 weeks. SSILD seems to be more effective in the long run but i have attempted it the past three nights with partial success. I did question i was dreaming once but i didn't become fully lucid.

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Originally Posted by BananaWackeys

Just wondering. It's the weekend and i've had a shítty week, so a LD would really cheer me up.
As for the WILD, i just can't seem to get into sleep paralysis or go into a dream consciously :/ as for the SSILD (not SILD, those two are different), i've not tried it yet. Anyone tried both before that wants to share their knowledge?

Like it or not, SSILD is WILD. Or rather, SSILD is a technique you could employ to achieve a WILD.

WILD is a condition of consciousness (as is DILD), and not a technique. WILD is the transfer of waking-life self-awareness from wake to sleep/dream without any loss of that awareness. How you achieve that transfer is where techniques come into play, as they would be the various methods used to achieve a WILD. SSILD would indeed be one of those methods (and not a bad one, either, though very similar to "classic" WILD techniques).

So it seems you may be asking about what the difference is between attempting a WILD and attempting a WILD.

I know this sounds like a semantics argument, but it is not. WILD is a state of mind, not a technique, and to call it a technique can have a tendancy to diminish the meaning of WILD for you, which in turn might make experiencing a WILD less likely -- SSILD or not.

Oh, and SP is not a thing that must be gotten to in any WILD attempt; try to avoid that trap.

A good number of novices have reported multiple successes with SSILD. It may be a derivative of other techniques, but the steps are relatively simple and an achievable task for this weekend. Apparently it can be used to WILD if you become very awake and alternatively if you are drowsy by the end of the cycles you can doze off and get DILDs with or without FAs. 2 FAs in a row can make it easier to become lucid as well. I have used it with all of the above combinations. To me SSILD is good to give you tastes of LDing and/or keep you motivated while you inevitably do the long-term work required to build on the fundamentals...which I believe you need in order to have a house built to last instead of just a temporary lean-to/shack/shanty.

As an addendum to the above post, SSILD *may* have helped prepare my mind last night when I had what I believe to be a DEILD...definitely an LD. I think my self awareness work helped as well (Sageous' method). If SSILD did not help me directly it may have helped me keep LDing near the forefront of my thoughts and maybe that was all that it was. Basically I did the cycles after a WBTB, went to sleep, no lucid that time but right after my last mini-awakening of the night is when I had the LD. Details are in my online dream journal, today's entry.