Any Advanced Lucid Dreamers Still Have This Problem?

**Conscious Intervention** · 02-05-2013 04:14 PM

I have been lucid dreaming for about 4 or 5 years now. Of course this has not been consistent but over the past few years I can say I have had a lot of lucid dreams. Maybe close to once a week or once every two weeks if I'm not paying much attention to doing it. But regardless I can say I have had some experience exploring the dream realm.

Anyways last night I had a semi-lucid dream where I knew that I was dreaming but my mind never 'woke up' I guess you could say. I was having a really vivid and cool dream when I realized that it was a dream without the slightest change in the dream. Right after I realized it my dream continued on as normal. Then I had a false awakening where I woke up but I was in a completely different environment so I knew it wasn't real. When I had a false awakening that second I thought to myself, "Hey now I am having a dream that I was just having a dream" (if that makes sense). I was basically awake in my dream and recalling my previous dream while I knew that it was still not real. And again my dream continued on after that and I lost lucidity as quickly as I realized it.

Annnnyywayyys my point is I know this happens all the time to beginners as it use to happen to me all the time but I'm wondering if any advanced lucid dreamers still sometimes struggle with this problem or if I'm just out of practice I guess.

I'm thinking almost in a way maybe I'm starting to lose the thrill of having a lucid dream. It's no longer that big of a deal and so when I realize I'm dreaming I can just shrug it off and continue with the dream like nothing.

**GangsterPanda** · 02-05-2013 06:01 PM

Well I don't have as much experience as you, but I know from sources from other people that it can always be a challenge, even after a few years! I'm not saying its not possible to become a 'true' master but this could take your whole life, it various person to person. I'm just going to say that I'm trying something now and I am having a lucid dream every night, but honestly telling you might effect the result, I think you can guess what it is just from that. Back on topic I think that the reason why you are getting this is because you are out of sync, it effects me (I would say I'm half way there to pro) lucid dreaming can seriously be impacted just by putting off, even for short periods of time. I hope this helped, but it might not really be valid because I'm not exactly a pro yet...

**sisyphus** · 02-05-2013 06:03 PM

I took a break from lucid dreaming because I was having so many false awakenings and short dreams that it was disturbing the quality of my sleep. I think training in lucid dreaming caused my mind to spend more time in REM at the very cusp of waking. For about 3 hours each morning, it would just be a blur of phenomena like dreaming of being awake, dreaming of dreaming, recalling previous dreams within dreams, mistaking daydreams for sleeping dreams. Like a stone skipping on water.

I think I reached the point where my mind was primed to become lucid but the novelty had worn off and I wasn't really motivated and didn't have any specific goals. Eventually, I took a break, turned my intention to NOT become lucid, and my sleep returned to normal.

I suppose each dreamer needs to find their own balance. I think it's not so good to be in that half-committed mode where you want to become lucid, but you don't have any goals and aren't enjoying it. Either be fully on or fully off. Or maybe develop a more structured schedule like only attempting on weekends to maintain a balance.

**gab** · 02-05-2013 06:31 PM

Have you tried practicing daytime awareness? It should help you to get "over the hump". When you realize you are dreaming, but you don't really get it. It doesn't click. Daytime awareness should help with every aspect of lucid dreaming, like details, vividness and level of lucidity. The difference would be just like difference between you walking through your day without paying attention to what you doing, just automatically following your rutine, and with you noticing details when doing something exciting and new.

If you have not read these yet, here is a few methods
self-awareness (sageous)
dream yoga (sivason)
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**Conscious Intervention** · 02-05-2013 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by sisyphus

I took a break from lucid dreaming because I was having so many false awakenings and short dreams that it was disturbing the quality of my sleep. I think training in lucid dreaming caused my mind to spend more time in REM at the very cusp of waking. For about 3 hours each morning, it would just be a blur of phenomena like dreaming of being awake, dreaming of dreaming, recalling previous dreams within dreams, mistaking daydreams for sleeping dreams. Like a stone skipping on water.

Another subject but I know exactly what you mean. I've never discussed or heard someone else with this problem but practicing lucid dreaming has definitely affected my quality of sleep. That's why I'm not 100% dedicated anymore and these reason I only have them a 3-5 times a month. When I was really into lucid dreaming I had great dream recall. I would wake up and remember 3-4 different dreams in full and complete detail every night. Only problem was after awhile it felt like I never slept. My mind felt like it was always awake and would never shut down. It was constantly going. I would have a long day at work then I would go home and get some sleep only to wake up and feel mentally drained from all the dreams I experienced the night before.

Sometimes a dream would be so real and have such an impact on me emotionally that It would affect my entire day. I guess you just have to find the balance.