Just because an RC fails, it doesn't means it can't make you lucid. In my opinion more should do as yes, some can fail, but soon anyway you will be able to tell whether you are in a dream or not without RCs. |
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I frequently hear people say RCs in dreams dont make you lucid, but just confirms it. But I must disagree with that. I am on vacation and walked into a new bathroom, and did an RC, since unusual bathroom situations are a dream sign for me. I discovered of course I was indeed awake. Last night I dreamed I "had an accident" and had to clean up in the toilet. Just like in real life I did an RC and as I did in RL a few days earlier. I honestly thought I was awake, although considered the possibility of being in a dream in both situations. I was quite surprised the RC failed and was going to keep checking when I vaguely recalled I had been sleeping recently, so then knew yes I was dreaming. Both situations the RCs were the same and expectations were the same. I did not have a prior suspicion I was dreaming. |
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Just because an RC fails, it doesn't means it can't make you lucid. In my opinion more should do as yes, some can fail, but soon anyway you will be able to tell whether you are in a dream or not without RCs. |
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"Victory loves preparation."
This post is completely true. My first 2 LDs were because of RCs. |
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Sure, I also once had an experience where I was convinced I was awake, did an RC anyway, and was shocked to find out I was dreaming. On the other hand in my later LD, I did an RC but it failed to confirm that I was dreaming, but I though "skrew that! I know I am dreaming." So basically I knew, and it did not matter that the RC failed. I think what people mean when they say that RCs do not make you lucid is that while RCs are a useful tool, but most people get lucid not because of the results of an RC. And also if you lack the necessary awareness, you could do an RC in a dream and fail to become lucid. So it is like a good pen does not make you a good writer, and you can be a good writer even if you do not own a good pen, but a good pen can be a useful tool and it could certainly be instrumental in writing something good. |
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You may say I'm a dreamer.
But I'm not the only one - John Lennon
Yes, I've done RCs in dreams because I was in situations "that you are supposed to do a reality check in" and did one and was absolutely flabbergasted to find out I was dreaming. |
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My LDing record, if you want to hear about it, is about 4 WILDs, 1 DEILD, and the rest DILDs.
Just to clarify, if an RC fails, I mean checking for reality fails...ie you confirm the dream state. The check itself worked perfectly as it should. |
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This is how I see it. |
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Enough awareness to do an RC I dont think equates to enough awareness to know you are dreaming without an RC. It may seem like a moot point, but I think some who read forums conclude RCs are not needed...why confirm what you already know? I am pretty emphatic that is not the case. Over time my awareness has become better and I often do spontaneously know I am dreaming....but not always. RCs still are an important part of my set of techniques. |
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I agree. RCs are needed. They are a great tool. Those who think RCs are not needed I think they don't realize, why RCs work. That you put emotions in practicing them. The "wow, am I dreaming?" and then you RC to check in WL. The "I'm dreaming, so I watch my thumb go through my palm now". And that "wow moment" in WL is the awareness that will give us the urge to RC in a dream. Sometimes we know we are dreaming without RC, sometimes we use it to confirm. But the urge to RC, and lucidity "out of the blue" comes from awareness. |
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I'll probably get a lot of hate for this, but i find that RCs are a little bit "overrated". Don't get me wrong. They are helpfull when you suddenly are in a completely different environment, like when you're on vacation. But i'm personally not a big fan about doing a reality check at "random times". Although, i will admit that RCs seem to work out for some people, but i still think it's a little bit overrated.. *I'm ready for the hate! |
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All successful people men and women are big dreamers. They imagine what their future could be, ideal in every respect, and then they work every day toward their distant vision, that goal or purpose.
It's best to have failure happen early in life. It wakes up the Phoenix bird in you so you rise from the ashes.
Hey Ekyu, there is no single answer when it comes to LDs. What works for one doesnt always work the same for others. No hate mail here! |
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Hey Gab, I must admit I had become very skeptical about RCs. It seemed like you said; I needed some level of awareness in order to do an RC to confirm I was dreaming, but my first LD following an RC came the night after reading that the nose pinch RC was probably the best one. Up until then I had been practising the finger through the palm one. It felt like the impulse to do the nose pinch was completely spontaneous, and the brief moment of lucidity that followed seemed to be as a result of the RC. |
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I would say, that reading, thinking, talking about lucid dreaming related stuff is part of awareness. |
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