The closest I experienced like this was simple daydreaming while lying in my bed, falling a little asleep, so the daydream got into a dream... but when I tried to control it, instant wakeup. |
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Has anyone ever experienced this (or had any type of dream awake)? I don't mean average daydreaming, I mean where you actually see, feel, hear, smell, and taste everything you induce while awake. I don't know, maybe it would be super advanced visualization or self-induced hallucinations that you somehow control. |
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The closest I experienced like this was simple daydreaming while lying in my bed, falling a little asleep, so the daydream got into a dream... but when I tried to control it, instant wakeup. |
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"Victory loves preparation."
There is research suggesting that dreams and non-physical experiences actually aren't dependent on you being in REM sleep, but rather that your focus of awareness is in another frequency of existence. So let's think of the REM sleep as just a way for our mind to easier attain this focus of awareness. |
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Interesting theory, MasterMind. I'd like to see some of that research, because I have trouble finding honest and open minded research myself. You address the possibility that our consciousness is not actually a physical phenomenon, i.e. it cannot be linked directly to a specific area of the body or to a certain chemical (although DMT is sometimes referred to as the spirit molecule, and this is also the dream inducing chemical, as far as I understand). So our body stays the same when transitioning from alive to physical death (or to dreams), i.e. does not lose weight when the spirit leaves. That means that consciousness is the focus of awareness/attention of some kind of non-physical into physical reality, thus physical reality might be a big shared lucid dream altogether. |
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You cannot "dream" while awake. That's called hallucinating. The only situation where you dream while awake is due a specific disorder in which the person can be wide awake and still experience dreams. As you may have guess, it's quite a radical experience (and quite some conflict between internal and external sensory input). |
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Last edited by Zoth; 06-18-2013 at 10:35 PM.
Further to what Zoth has said, I am fairly certain there is a part of the brain that actively suppresses the imagery associated with dreams which turns off/down during sleep. I believe that all animal studies exploring the destruction of this area resulted in the death of the subjects. |
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Learning to lucid dream since 2012.
LUCID DREAM FREQUENCY: ~10% of nights
This is a state I can get in whenever I am over tired, but content. |
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It isn't research that is focusing on the REM's correlation with Dreams in itself. It's rather experiences from a variety of different people in a lab that is pointing in a direction of a different model of reality. |
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This may or may not be related, but when one of my LDs were about to end, I could see the dream world in one eye and my room in another. It was very strange. |
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Yes yes.. Actually this is a coincidence. I just started thinking about this a few weeks ago. I guess you could say I just..remembered it. When I was a kid, about the age of 5 to 15, I used to be able to have extremely vivid daydreams. It's hard to explain but when I daydreamed, I was THERE. I was no longer in class, or in the car, but I was wherever I wanted to be, and I could do anything I wanted to. It was amazing at the time. |
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Last edited by xAvenged7x; 06-21-2013 at 02:20 AM. Reason: typo
All this daydreaming, or whatever you wish to label it as, seems to be easier in youth. |
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Seems to me like you are talking about entering a dream straight from waking. If all your senses are in the dream, then you are asleep. Sometimes you can slip into REM without even realizing that you fell asleep and still not realize that you are dreaming. This happens often when hitting the alarm over and over in the morning or during WBTBs, but it can also happen when you take a nap a few hours after waking. There is no gap between waking and sleeping, but you somehow lost consciousness, because you were not lucid. My opinion. I would love to hear more. |
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If you get very far into dream yoga then I can teach you a skill I have always known as 'dream trance.' However, it really is an advanced meditation skill, so most need to start much simpler. It is just the skill to change your brain waves conciously, thus allowing a powerful fully amazing use of the visualization centers used in dreams, while awake (?more on awake in a moment). This would be done in a meditation position and takes some time and limited distractions. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 06-23-2013 at 12:17 AM.
Not sure exactly what the original poster was describing, but several times later at night reading a book I have immediately slipped Iinto a short vivid dream. Happens so fast it surprises me, and feels instantaneous. I have wondered about this type of experience. |
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I daydream extremely often and for those moments reality ceases to exist and all my awareness is focused into it. I am able to visualize sight, touch, sound, sometimes smell and taste up to a point where my subconscious kicks in and does the job for me, it's a similar scenario to V[visualization]-WILD. It's quite awesome, but it requires a lot of concentration. I can do that in class, for example, I will just look like someone daydreaming. It's kind of a state of mind between awake and asleep. |
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Funny, I was just reading about something very similar that was presented originally by Carl Jung called Active Imagination. |
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If I'm relaxed enough I can visualize and feel things very vividly. Definitely helps with MILD. |
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Spoiler for Secret to LDing:
Sivason, Sageous, thank you; you have given me something to research and aim for. |
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^^ If you want to look into Jung's idea of active imagination, find a copy of his "Memories, Dreams, and Reflections." There's an easier to read description in a book called "Inner Work," by Robert A. Johnson. |
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That's great! An older thread about something similar made me think about it and I found my way of doing it. If you have any peice of advice about helping the subconscious to kick in easier and and faster it would be much appreciated! |
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It is not easy at first, as you still have so much conscious awareness. The trick is to mentally relax the words in your head, that voice within. It needs to be running in slow motion to give space for the subconscious mind to play with things. |
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Ah yes, I made a thread about this not too long ago, I've been caught up in school so it sort of fell to the wayside (SIMDML has already posted a link to it here) hopefully now that the semester is over I can get around to building the tutorial that I plan to write for it. Let me know if you have any questions and I'd be glad to answer (I LDD daily, and have been for quite a long time so I've got a lot to say) |
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