opening your eyes for lucid dream?

**Myownreality** · 08-12-2014 08:01 AM

there a lot of people say that you have to open your eyes in order to lucid dream but do you mean it physically like your real body opening its eyes or are you having a dream and you open your eyes Cause you are dreaming that you're laying in bed and then you opened your dream eyes. I know that's a little confusing but I think I tried to physically open my eyes and it kind of made me hallucinate and wake up.

**lucidyug** · 08-12-2014 09:10 AM

I've never heard this before. Lucid dreaming occurs during REM sleep in which your eyes rapidly move about, but the eyelids remain closed. I've never experienced LD in which I 'open my dream eyes' either :S

Who actually are these 'lot of people' who say this? Can you link us so we can working out the context of what they mean?

**Mystycal** · 08-12-2014 09:48 AM

I think I've seen that kind of thing in OBE and WILD tutorials...the method is to make your body fall asleep and then open your eyes in the dream. Once you can't feel your body and you try to open your eyes, you'll automatically open your dream eyes, and will be in a dream. I think that's how it's supposed to work. Maybe next time you should try to wait more when you feel yourself in the dream so you completely can't feel your physical body. I've never successfully WILDed myself, but that sounds like good advice to me

**4thDimension** · 08-12-2014 03:53 PM

You don't have to open your physical eyes to LD, but I have had a handful of non-lucids where my eyes really were open. I have no control over the actions of my eyes during these dreams; they usually spin aroun or dart from side to side, making it impossible to focus on one thing.

**Goldenspark** · 08-14-2014 11:24 AM

I do wonder if sometimes the act of opening your dream eyes might start the visuals in an LD, but that would only happen in a WILD presumably. I.e. You start with your real eyes closed as you do the WILD process, so your dream starts with your dream eyes closed, and once you have actually gone to sleep the act of opening your (dream) eyes starts the visuals.

**4thDimension** · 08-15-2014 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Goldenspark

I do wonder if sometimes the act of opening your dream eyes might start the visuals in an LD, but that would only happen in a WILD presumably. I.e. You start with your real eyes closed as you do the WILD process, so your dream starts with your dream eyes closed, and once you have actually gone to sleep the act of opening your (dream) eyes starts the visuals.

Yes, you are definitely able to open your dream eyes. However with my WILDs, I do not notice my dream eyes opening. When I close my eyes for a WILD, the hypnagogia slowly becomes a dream scene. It's kind of like opening my dream eyes is a gradual process. I'm sure other people are different and undoubtedly, they notice their dream eyes opening.
Here is an interesting story, though: I occasionally sleep with my physical eyes open. This normally happens when I'm about to wake up. This morning, I had a false awakening in which my eyes were open. As I became lucid, I had an urge to close my eyes (I guess because they had been open for a few minutes.) I really wanted to stay in the now lucid dream, but I had to close my eyes. When I opened them a few seconds later, I was awake. I knew this because the hallucinations had stopped. I have never had a LD with my physical eyes open, so I'm not sure it's possibe, especially with the experience I just mentioned. Just something to think about; it's not necessarily on-topic!