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      Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
      ^^ That's a good idea, Avian. Also a good idea is giving yourself some time to learn to do this, with many failed attempts in the process. You do not have to be a dream yogi to hold on to your self-awareness all night, but you do have to invest some time in order to get your head in the right place to defy the natural order of sleep all night, and also to be open to the interesting, exciting, even occasionally transcendental experiences that can be had during that "boring" time between REM periods.



      Respectfully, Seltiez, I'm not sure that trying and failing to do this once really rates a dismissal like "it's waste of time unless you're a yogi." You do not need to be a yogi to do this (I'm certainly not one), and I personally do not meditate for hours every day, either; I really do not meditate at all, except I suppose for the "lay down, hold still" portion of WILD.

      Sometimes the really interesting things take a little more effort, even for those who have good LD'ing skills to lessen the work. You might consider giving an "all nighter" some more tries before fully dismissing it -- also, come to think of it, you don't need to go the entire night; start by attempting some WILD's earlier in the night when you know you will be missing REM, see what you find, and then work your way out from there.
      I communicate badly in writing. My point was thats its boring between the stages of sleep before dream starts and it is very boring for me to start consciouss sleep at night because it takes time to fall asleep and i wouldnt want go trough that every night its much better wake later at night and then stay consciouss then. I find it mentally excausting thats why i said its waste of time and refferred to yogi because of their patience. I rather be unsciounses at start of sleep because it takes time for me to fall to dream. I find it much easier to have to stay consciouss and still after you have gone trough first sleep cycle because i feel relaxed and dont get bored but thanks for correcting me. I dont want to discourage anybody.
      Last edited by Seltiez; 11-17-2014 at 11:13 PM.

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