Melatonin has no effect on me?

**Tiny** · 12-30-2014 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by pressure

lies.

everyone produces melatonin in their brains. Melatonin does not have any of the side effects you claim.

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I think I read somewhere that melatonin in high doses can be used as birth control

**cooleymd** · 12-30-2014 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Tiny

I think I read somewhere that melatonin in high doses can be used as birth control

Yes I have read this too, but at some doses and ages of females it can be used in perimenopausal women to stabilize cycle.

I just think young women should be aware of risk of bleeding (and read your bottle, it clearly says not to use if pregnant or nursing)

People on here are always talking about using for sleep tho, I don't use it for sleep, I typically take at least 40mg and sometimes as much as like 100+ but I take it for vividness.

Tonight and tomorrow I am testing not using it to see if I still wake after every cycle and for effect on vividness. I have taken only 100mg 5HTP about 2 hours before initial sleep , I have still been waking after every dream but dreams do seem a bit less vivid. Interestingly I seem to have a bit of insomnia atm, but high serotonin following 5HTP can also cause this. Most nights on Melatonin I get at least some insomnia. I hope to get back to sleep at least one more time to see if the last dream is vivid. But I also haven't taken any B6 tonight so maybe I'm just not recalling as much dreaming. (my recall is always better on weekends, when I am more relaxed, and that is almost always when I become lucid)

If taken for sleep the proper dose is .3mg for young people, 1mg for a bit older, 1.5mg for middle aged, and 3mg for older people

High dose for lucid dreaming is like 50mg but I never take it all at once, I take it like 10 or 20 mg every cycle thru the night and I use Melatonin pills that are 5mg fast acting / 5mg slow release w/ 10mg b6.

The lack of toxicity is true, but it does have side effects, even now I notice less sadness, usually it makes me sad and on the way to work I cry a bit. It is known to act as a depressant. But a bit of crying and insomnia is all I notice.

It doesn't suppress rem in high dose, it causes vividness. Don't assume one dose's effects are going to be the same as another or that effects are linear.

For instance take 5HTP: I decided to have bit of fun one week and up the dose from 100 or 200 to much higher what do you think the effect would be. I usually take 100 or 200 for actual REM suppression. What does this dose do, it all but eliminates REM at the end of the first cycle and causes me to sleep thru the first 2 cycles. So what did 300 do, make me sleep more, no a bit less I woke up after less then 3 hours not more. And what did 500mg do I awoke after the first cycle with very intense dream. Why? Because 5HTP is transported to the brain, and then converted into Serotonin which causes intense dreams and at this level this effect prevailed. So don't assume that the effect of one dose will be the same as another. At low dose Melatonin causes sleep cycle adjustment and treats insomnia, at High dose it promotes sleep disruption and insomnia, its effects are not linear. I can only tell you for sure in me that at a high enough dose it promotes dream like hallucinations even while awake and can cause very vivid dreams.

All drugs work a bit different in different people the most common side effect of high dose Melatonin is supposedly headache, but I wouldn't know as I haven't have a real headache since like 1990 and am all but totally immune to them. But just because Melatonin is not toxic doesn't mean it doesn't have side effects of course it does. And the advice to start slow and build up is good advice. I would think young females would want to be aware of this specific risk in case they always have rock solid cycle and suddenly it goes haywire after taking Melatonin