Thread: Sensations you've felt when when falling asleep, in sleep paralysis, or while WILDing.

Originally Posted by blizzardesigns

sleep paralysis is not just a hallucination... it's not a symptom of dream state or sensations, it's something astral, a spiritual attack, and if you still haven't realized that you're just being naive and labeling your intuitive conclusion about these events as superstitions when in reality they're much more real than you could ever rationally comprehend.

LOL!

That is one of the funniest and silliest misinterpretations of sleep paralysis I have seen in years. I hope it's some kind of a typo, like a "not" missing from "it's NOT something astral, NOT spiritual attack..." If not a typo, then please don't do it again. It has no place on this forum.

Sleep paralysis is when our body is immobilized after we start to dream. Simple defense mechanizm, so we don't act out our dreams and kick a wall or punch someone sleeping next to us, or start walking, screeming, anything pretty much that we are doing in a dream at that moment.

REM atonia, which is a normal state our body engages after we enter REM state and start to dream, happens to everybody every nite, every time we dream. It starts automatically and ends automatically the moment the REM is over or we woke up. Sometimes it can happen that REM atonia starts while we are still aware, or doesn't end the moment we wake up. Those instances of REM atonia are called SP - sleep paralysis. It can be scary if we don't know what is happening. But if we know what it is, it can actually be used to enter a LD, since we are already half way there - all nice and relaxed. Just relax and try to enter another dream while keeping your awareness. Or if you want to end SP, start by changing your breathing. Make it faster, and your body will realize that YOU are in control of it, so you must be awake and it will end the SP. Also, try to wiggle tips of your fingers and toes. Everything else is paralyzed. But the point is to show your body that you are awake so it ends the SP.

When lucid dreamers WILD, we get into state when we are still aware, but already dreaming. In that moment we could be already in REM atonia. But normally we don't even notice, because why whould we? SP is not a goal of lucid dreaming, and testing if we are in SP is counterproductive, since moving and testing if we are in SP could and would get us out of the state when we are already in a lucid dream.

So, SP is anormal state our body enters us into every time we dream. Nothing supernatural about it.

Originally Posted by JShadow

Ever WILDed and felt strange sensations like this? What did they feel like?

oooooh yeah! I love those! For me, they are as good as LD itself.

Floating
body rotating
being lifted up and twisted like a pretzel
vibrating
flying head first at warp speed, sometimes over bumpy surface
falling down

The falling down sensation is one of my favorites. So sometimes when in HH, I try to induce LD by finding a chair, standing up on it and falling down backwards.

Originally Posted by gab

LOL!

That is one of the funniest and silliest misinterpretations of sleep paralysis I have seen in years. I hope it's some kind of a typo, like a "not" missing from "it's NOT something astral, NOT spiritual attack..." If not a typo, then please don't do it again. It has no place on this forum.

Sleep paralysis is when our body is immobilized after we start to dream. Simple defense mechanizm, so we don't act out our dreams and kick a wall or punch someone sleeping next to us, or start walking, screeming, anything pretty much that we are doing in a dream at that moment.

REM atonia, which is a normal state our body engages after we enter REM state and start to dream, happens to everybody every nite, every time we dream. It starts automatically and ends automatically the moment the REM is over or we woke up. Sometimes it can happen that REM atonia starts while we are still aware, or doesn't end the moment we wake up. Those instances of REM atonia are called SP - sleep paralysis. It can be scary if we don't know what is happening. But if we know what it is, it can actually be used to enter a LD, since we are already half way there - all nice and relaxed. Just relax and try to enter another dream while keeping your awareness. Or if you want to end SP, start by changing your breathing. Make it faster, and your body will realize that YOU are in control of it, so you must be awake and it will end the SP. Also, try to wiggle tips of your fingers and toes. Everything else is paralyzed. But the point is to show your body that you are awake so it ends the SP.

When lucid dreamers WILD, we get into state when we are still aware, but already dreaming. In that moment we could be already in REM atonia. But normally we don't even notice, because why whould we? SP is not a goal of lucid dreaming, and testing if we are in SP is counterproductive, since moving and testing if we are in SP could and would get us out of the state when we are already in a lucid dream.

So, SP is anormal state our body enters us into every time we dream. Nothing supernatural about it.



oooooh yeah! I love those! For me, they are as good as LD itself.

Floating
body rotating
being lifted up and twisted like a pretzel
vibrating
flying head first at warp speed, sometimes over bumpy surface
falling down

The falling down sensation is one of my favorites. So sometimes when in HH, I try to induce LD by finding a chair, standing up on it and falling down backwards.

being naive about the spiritual side of things makes it impossible to comprehend, did you watch that video? have you heard what has been said by every ancient religion throughout history to this day about these things? It's obviously never happened to you before going to sleep.

Originally Posted by blizzardesigns

being naive about the spiritual side of things makes it impossible to comprehend, did you watch that video? have you heard what has been said by every ancient religion throughout history to this day about these things? It's obviously never happened to you before going to sleep.

It's one thing to take a seed of truth and another to blindly dig into the ground hoping for some kind of revelation. It seems you should probably not continue on in this mindset without reevaluation.

Originally Posted by Nhuc

It's one thing to take a seed of truth and another to blindly dig into the ground hoping for some kind of revelation. It seems you should probably not continue on in this mindset without reevaluation.

Who says the revelation's realized from religious seeds of knowledge need reevaluation? This information just needs to be recognized without ignorant disregard. Cynical skepticism only blinds people from seeing the big picture of the simplest of ideas. Only less than 100 years ago have people been disregarding ancient known facts in contrast with modern psychological explanations, which of course only value a material (chemical) explanation.

Originally Posted by blizzardesigns

Who says the revelation's realized from religious seeds of knowledge need reevaluation? This information just needs to be recognized without ignorant disregard. Cynical skepticism only blinds people from seeing the big picture of the simplest of ideas. Only less than 100 years ago have people been disregarding ancient known facts in contrast with modern psychological explanations, which of course only value a material (chemical) explanation.

skepticism has nothing to do with cynicism, it is more a question of wisdom.
Science always try to bring models, explanations and demonstrations.
obscurantism and religions are about claims, faith, trust, but never bring any proof of what is claimed.

it's up to you to decide where is the ignorance.

Originally Posted by gab

LOL!

That is one of the funniest and silliest misinterpretations of sleep paralysis I have seen in years. I hope it's some kind of a typo, like a "not" missing from "it's NOT something astral, NOT spiritual attack..." If not a typo, then please don't do it again. It has no place on this forum.

Sleep paralysis is when our body is immobilized after we start to dream. Simple defense mechanizm, so we don't act out our dreams and kick a wall or punch someone sleeping next to us, or start walking, screeming, anything pretty much that we are doing in a dream at that moment.

REM atonia, which is a normal state our body engages after we enter REM state and start to dream, happens to everybody every nite, every time we dream. It starts automatically and ends automatically the moment the REM is over or we woke up. Sometimes it can happen that REM atonia starts while we are still aware, or doesn't end the moment we wake up. Those instances of REM atonia are called SP - sleep paralysis. It can be scary if we don't know what is happening. But if we know what it is, it can actually be used to enter a LD, since we are already half way there - all nice and relaxed. Just relax and try to enter another dream while keeping your awareness. Or if you want to end SP, start by changing your breathing. Make it faster, and your body will realize that YOU are in control of it, so you must be awake and it will end the SP. Also, try to wiggle tips of your fingers and toes. Everything else is paralyzed. But the point is to show your body that you are awake so it ends the SP.

When lucid dreamers WILD, we get into state when we are still aware, but already dreaming. In that moment we could be already in REM atonia. But normally we don't even notice, because why whould we? SP is not a goal of lucid dreaming, and testing if we are in SP is counterproductive, since moving and testing if we are in SP could and would get us out of the state when we are already in a lucid dream.

So, SP is anormal state our body enters us into every time we dream. Nothing supernatural about it.



oooooh yeah! I love those! For me, they are as good as LD itself.

Floating
body rotating
being lifted up and twisted like a pretzel
vibrating
flying head first at warp speed, sometimes over bumpy surface
falling down

The falling down sensation is one of my favorites. So sometimes when in HH, I try to induce LD by finding a chair, standing up on it and falling down backwards.

You get the warped speed head thing too eh/huh? I've had SP since I was 12 years old or so. It is very rare. I never see "The Old Hag" or "Shadowman". First time it happened I could hear my mother's voice getting louder and louder. In the past few years someone had told me to just go with it. One night I did and my body flipped 180 degrees where I was face down hovering over the ground when in reality I was on my back. Getting back to warped speed: I just remember trying a meditation in a camper I used to rent. After that I went to try and sleep and SP occured. I went with it. I was on my back but in SP it felt like I was sitting upright in bed. Then my head felt detached from my body. It went into warped speed forward. I could see a very dark dark green with black lightening flashes. The sound of the warped speed was like the sound of rushing waters ( Ie. Niagara Falls) Ontop of this sound I could hear a ringing from the center upright part of my brain. It sounded as if it was moving in circles and rotating from fast to slow ( Ie. the cursor when you log into skype) The speed of the sound seems to match the rythmn of the speed and timing of the Skype cursor when you log in. I don't think it lasted too long but it was a pretty gnarly trip. I worked with a dude who was brought up Harri Krishna, and he seemed to think I tapped into my merkaba. Have not experienced anything like this aside from the standard SP which is rare of which I can remember in the past few years. I hope I was able to explain this well enough as it is 2:33 in the morning here. Always was curious if others have experienced the same feeling. G'Night