Thread: How long did it take you to have your first LD?

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Wow those ones are pretty cool, are there any others on this forum, that are like that. I mean like feature anime or videogames in their lucid dreams?

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

Wow those ones are pretty cool, are there any others on this forum, that are like that. I mean like feature anime or videogames in their lucid dreams?

The best place to get ideas for your lucid dreams is from your non-lucid dreams

I had 3 LD yesterday one was mostly being in the void
one was being partly in the void, like I could see the road and walk on it but there was nothing but the road surrounded by nothingness, tho this was only some of the time.
the last LD I gained lucidity and then lost it after about 2 minutes

However, I also had two non-lucid dreams, one of which I was in a pod flying thru a tube across a futuristic city, when I asked my self what city is this I could only come up with probably one in Texas (so much for awareness)
Point is it was one of those dream scapes where I often find myself non-lucidly saying "If only I could dream like this" (I mean that I literally say this to myself in some dreams, then latter I wake up)(tho I didn't actually say it in this dream)
at the end of the dream I had entered a restricted area with the pilot and was being escorted out towards a stair case, it was one that descended in a circle of flights of stairs, so I dove thru the door and ran in circles at high speed until it occurred to me to use my centripetal force to just run on the walls, I could hear security falling more and more floors behind, so I even had a super power in this non lucid dream, then I woke up

in the final dream of the night I never became lucid, but I had a dream that I was in an air raid bunker and when I went to the surface with others we were under attack by strange alien creatures everywhere, they slaughtered everyone else, but I discovered that when I made a high pitched sound there was a bluish light in the center of the creatures and they were in pain and took damage, some charged me and even died.
(so again in a non-lucid I had a super power) When they retreated I had captured one of them who looked like Repichep from Narnia, but he impaled himself rather than be taken back to the lab.

So which dream was most awesome who knows

the two most important dreams were the lucids in which I survived the void and the one where I was able to avoid losing sight entirely, because each of these gave me more experience in stability (even tho they were unstable dreams) in the first one I fought and fought and fought to avoid losing the dream, I almost lost several times, then remembered get up and move, even tho I was nearly dream-paralyzed and totally blind, I got up began walking and survived the void. In the second when I was losing sight, I looked at what little of the dreamscape I had, the road, and thought just walk walk move move, and again I survived.

Clearly the city which had hundreds if not thousands of buildings in it and the tube that looked part glass part force field, was just spectacular.

The dream of the alien invasion was the best narrative of the night.

Remember 'If you can dream it: you can dream it'. So record your non-lucids and learn all you can.

Neat. I think I might also try DEILD, I have been practicing with visualizing myself becoming lucid in past dreams, that's how it works correct?

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

Neat. I think I might also try DEILD, I have been practicing with visualizing myself becoming lucid in past dreams, that's how it works correct?

DEILD is when you're becoming aware during the process of waking up or just as you wake up - and jump straight to a WILD. One option - the easiest in my opinion - is to visualize the previous dream scene.

Just a few minutes ago I gave a more complete response about DEILD on a different thread, so I'll link you there:

Why is DEILD not working for me now?

My first LD was after 2 days it was the longest lucid dream but i've been trying LD since 2 years but i hadn't enough informations and reality checks i had a big lack of informations so last year i decided to give it a try again and it worked perfectly well you need to believe that you'll have an LD just believe it because it's your mind after all you need to convince him that it will occur and also you need to work hard >< good luck

Hey all I have recently been trying FILD and DEILD recently. I wake up after 4hrs and a half and I notice that I feel exhausted. However I end up falling asleep quickly before I can try it. Should I set my alarm someplace where I have to look for it for a little bit to wake me up for a bit?

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

...FILD and DEILD recently. I wake up after 4hrs and a half and I notice that I feel exhausted. However I end up falling asleep quickly before I can try it. Should I set my alarm someplace where I have to look for it for a little bit to wake me up for a bit?

For DEILD you don't wake up for more than a few seconds, and you don't move, falling asleep quickly is the only way to succeed. For me when I attempt it I notice that my eyes are like flashing (because I am exiting a dream, like literally seconds afterward, it feels like I'm falling asleep but really I'm micro awakening) I don't even open my eyes much less turn to look at a clock or move body, you try to fall asleep but into a dream, often I will feel tingling paralysis set in but the only time or two that I have succeeded I just instantly find myself in a dream, if you 'wake up a bit' it isn't Dream Exit its Wake Back To Bed.

For FILD I suppose you could do WBTB.

If you for some reason don't want to fall asleep quickly because you want to do MILD then cross your legs or something to be a bit uncomfortable, do your manta to set intention for a while, then uncross and possibly roll over to be more comfortable and then quickly fall back to sleep (the idea being that you don't wake your self up much (so you can still fall asleep quickly) but delay sleep long enough to do the MILD setup)

Do I have to visualize my previous dream or can it be any dream I remember vividly?

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

Do I have to visualize my previous dream or can it be any dream I remember vividly?

Can work with either, or even things like counting breaths or just plain mantra. However visualizing the previous dream is the easiest way to go - because the previous dream is usually on your mind and thus easier to recall and visualize without fully waking up. In DEILD the key is to wake up as little as possible so you can quickly fall asleep (maintaining some awareness, hopefully).

Are Lucid dreams really as vivid as real life or look like real life? I think a problem is that part of me is having trouble thinking that this amazing thing could actually happen. I feel like my subconscious is too small to actually encapture an entire world?

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

Are Lucid dreams really as vivid as real life or look like real life?

Most of my LDs are as vivid as real life, so yes they generally are. Some LDs can be cartoonish (literally look animated), others might be foggy and not as vivid, and sometimes they can even be more vivid than real life. I mean, I know that this is a large thing to swallow unless you've experienced it yourself, but yes, some can be more vivid even. Sometimes the colors will be brighter, or resolution greater, or a greater field of view, or some extra-sensory input, or even some kind of feeling of, hmmm, purity or knowledge - it's really hard to describe in words.

By the way, with sufficient control you can change the vividness of the dream.

I feel like my subconscious is too small to actually encapture an entire world?

What you see in real life isn't the entire world - it's merely your interpretation of it based on sensory input (vision, balance, time perception, etc, etc) and a very complicated set of heuristics and feedback loops ("logic" and "emotions")...

If you call your interpretation of the entire world just "entire world", than it shouldn't surprise you that your subconscious can encapture it - in fact, it does this very same thing every day. Your brain does this while you read this reply, and essentially it does this in the background every fragment of a second from a few weeks after your conception up until the brain dies. That's the role of our brain - to create a "native" simulation of reality.

If the brain can do this for hopefully 120+ years, than why can't this happen while dreaming!?

Do those "animated dreams" feel quite vivid as well? One of my goals is to lucid dream myself into an animated world.

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

Do those "animated dreams" feel quite vivid as well? One of my goals is to lucid dream myself into an animated world.

I think animated dreams suck a bit. Once I set an intention to dream of marketing a new Victoria's Secret product, and would need super models for testing . I found myself in a train station and several A-H from work were there, a train pulled in and they got on, but I missed it. Next I was left at the station and when I looked down it was full of trash, but when I looked in the trash there were tons and tons of still wrapped lingerie, like dozens and dozens of them spread all over the ground among bags and papers and junk. There were some pets running loose in the station too. Then another train arrived and I quickly got on. The seats on the light rail train cars were all weirdly arranged and the train was jagged, wider in some spots with like booth table arranged chairs in the jutting areas. I decided to move further back in the train (on the real train you can't move from car to car in this city), suddenly I found my self in the light rail dining car. I was like B.S. this is a dream, and so I reached out and grabbed a DC, instantly they turned into a cartoon like person, and the train became cartoon like and the top of the train ripped open and there were cartoon angels and cartoon demons flying everywhere in the sky, and I was like this F'n sucks. It was one of only two times in Lucid Dreams that I wanted to commit dream suicide, but before I could find a way to kill the dream I woke up

On the original subject, one month to the day of starting to read ETWOLD and setting intention to recall dreams, I had my first LD at the end of a very long vivid and present dream. It totally changed my life!

I have been practicing all day awareness. Some times during the day, I take around minutes to be aware of my surroundings. However, sometimes my mind tends to wander when I try to be aware, like I notice my surroundings or try to and there are some thoughts in my way, so I sometimes feel like my attempts are half-hearted. Could this effect my DILD chances?

second with FILD, I think I've figured out my dilemma. When I wake up, I tend to get on my back and relax like visualize myself becoming lucid or recall a previous dream. It works but I then tend to roll over on my stomach when I get tired, which is the position I fall asleep in, and I tend to have trouble visualizing and then I fall asleep with no FILD. Should I just remain on my back then?

Also recently I've been trying ADA, but I find it difficult to concentrate at times. What tips could be useful for that?

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

Also recently I've been trying ADA, but I find it difficult to concentrate at times. What tips could be useful for that?

My tip is to not do ADA.
Lots disagree with me tho.

Recently as well, my dream recall has gone back down and it troubles me.

Repeating a mantra helps with both concentration and recall problems. Don't quit repeating your mantra before you fall asleep or else you'll miss out on some of it's benefits. Try to repeat your mantra at all times while conscious in bed.

Honestly, I've kind of avoided mantras as my mind tends to wander a lot/

Originally Posted by dolphin

Repeating a mantra helps with both concentration and recall problems. Don't quit repeating your mantra before you fall asleep or else you'll miss out on some of it's benefits. Try to repeat your mantra at all times while conscious in bed.

Sometimes it's hard, I can't fall asleep repeating a mantra because I put too much focus into it which keeps me awake.

I repeat it quite a lot during the day though, have had some success with this when I want to attempt to keep my eyes shut and body still upon awakening.

Originally Posted by kamenriderbaron

Honestly, I've kind of avoided mantras as my mind tends to wander a lot/

But, given that a major reason for using a mantra is as a tool for focus to help prevent your mind from wandering, a mantra might be just the thing for you... it might be worth looking into trying one after all!

I don't want to do mantras but they are the best thing.