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    Thread: Should I stop trying to lucid dream?

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      Should I stop trying to lucid dream?

      I have been plagued by negative thoughts for months. Its gotten to the point where I am afraid to lucid dream because one of these negative thoughts may make something manifest inside of my lucid. Like let's say I get lucid and get a negative thought of being molested by my father (sorry. ) I don't want my dream to just skip to a scene where this is actually happening. Even if its just for like a second.

      I don't know what to do. I really want to pursue my lucid dreaming hobby but I am just unsure if I'll be able to handle something like this happening.

      I'm not at all familiar with what it feels like inside the dream, so I have no idea how easily negative thoughts can manifest. I was thinking about just going into the dream with the attentions of nothing negative manifesting at all and being 100% certain of that from the start, but i do not know how well this would work.

      Please. Can SOMEONE out there just give me some advice? I really do NOT want to quit lucid dreaming but at the same time, I don't want to experience getting basically raped by my dad in there.

      I know I have control. Full control. But what if this manifests before I have time to change the dream scene or something? Any tips on what I can do to just keep negative thoughts from influcing my dreams at all?

      I CANNOT be the only one who has thought about this. Is there anyone out there who can just offer me some insight? );

      I would really appreciate it. Lucid dreaming is something I hold very dear to me and I wish to stop doing it for the rest of my life just because of a silly problem. I will be forever greatful for anyone that helps.
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      If i find no solution, Then i'm just done forever i guess. So much time and energy wasted. I hate to think about quitting, but so far i have no other options. I haven't really recieved much advice from anyone on this, and as of now i'm still in the position i was stuck in months ago. Atleast when not lucid dreaming i don't have to worry about getting molested by my dad or something. Sigh, this still sucks though. I have so many goals and i'm the only one holding myself back from completing them. I seriously CANNOT be the only one who has come across a situation with negative thinking like this. Like, let's say i'm lucid. If i'm just walking down the street exploring and get a negative thought of being molested by my dad, will the dream scene just change instantly and put me in that situation right then and there? I just need someone who is experienced, maybe even a few people, to just help me out with these questions and help me finally get past this.

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      Personally, I believe that our subconscious will only show us things that we are ready to see but on a personal level, you may want to take a break from lucid dreaming because you don't want to dive into it with negative thought pattern. Have you considered speaking to someone about your past experience? Speaking to a professional will help a lot physically and psycholoically only if you put the work in yourself.


      Learn some meditation, go for walks in nature, spend time with friends, do the thing you love, this will make you feel a lot better about yourself. Don't think of it as quitting, think of it as making yourself a better person which will make your lucid dreaming a whole more fun when you decide to learn properly.

      We all have problems, it's just about finding the way to deal with them.

      Good luck with whatever you do, smile and stay positive.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
      Personally, I believe that our subconscious will only show us things that we are ready to see but on a personal level, you may want to take a break from lucid dreaming because you don't want to dive into it with negative thought pattern. Have you considered speaking to someone about your past experience? Speaking to a professional will help a lot physically and psycholoically only if you put the work in yourself.


      Learn some meditation, go for walks in nature, spend time with friends, do the thing you love, this will make you feel a lot better about yourself. Don't think of it as quitting, think of it as making yourself a better person which will make your lucid dreaming a whole more fun when you decide to learn properly.

      We all have problems, it's just about finding the way to deal with them.

      Good luck with whatever you do, smile and stay positive.


      Would it be ideal to just come back in a year or two? I'm 16 atm and don't have much freedom since i'm homeschooled and our neighborhood sucks lol. What if i just waited until i was 18 or so and had the freedom to move out or stay away from my dad more and basically, just giving myself time to forget about all of this and develop as a person. I don't want to feel like waiting two years is too long before i start lucid dreaming again, but at the same time i better not jump into it in this situation. Perhaps by the time i'm 18, i'll have a much more relaxed personality and won't even have these problems.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Misanthrope392 View Post
      Would it be ideal to just come back in a year or two? I'm 16 atm and don't have much freedom since i'm homeschooled and our neighborhood sucks lol. What if i just waited until i was 18 or so and had the freedom to move out or stay away from my dad more and basically, just giving myself time to forget about all of this and develop as a person. I don't want to feel like waiting two years is too long before i start lucid dreaming again, but at the same time i better not jump into it in this situation. Perhaps by the time i'm 18, i'll have a much more relaxed personality and won't even have these problems.
      Honestly man, I don't know you, but I'm proud of you. People go through these type of situations and find it hard to speak about, it can take days, months or even years to talk about something so personal. It's hard for me to help someone who has been through a traumatic event so I'm unsure on what to say.

      If you need anyone to talk to, just drop me a PM. Sorry, I've kinda took it off the topic. You may wish to start now, or you may want to take some time off. It's entirely upto you.
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      What you seek is seeking you dude. Moreover, what you put your energy on is what will manifest and grow. In my 2+ years of lucid dreaming I've never been in a Lucid Dream where something I thought about popped up instantly or poofed into the dream, it just doesn't seem to work that way for many people.

      If you still think this could plague your lucid dreams, use that same strong expectation that you have when you think you're dad will show up, against the negative thoughts in general. Use that same strong expectation to form positive manifestations and constantly reinforce them with a positive mindset.

      Since you know you have full control, I wouldn't even consider this a problem, don't worry about it anymore. And another thing, according to Freud, your dreams are manifestations of your desires, so since no one really wants negative things, I doubt it will ever show up in your dreams. One's mindset in lucid dreams overall is completely different from waking life imo. For example, I never worry in dreams, I'm always in a positive state. Thought patterns don't seem to be the same for me in dreams, not sure how to explain that clearly though.

      And don't give up, there's no time for that. What's that old saying? Fall 7 times get up 8?
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      Guess i'll just stick with it then and just trust what you say and myself as well. I better not give up if i've never even been in a lucid once during this situation. Maybe i won't have the same problems when in the dream, and it'd suck to find that out two years later. Plus my awareness is getting pretty good too.

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      Oh no lol, the thing is. I didn't experience anything like this in real life. It's just random negative thoughts coming to my mind and sticking there. I get the fear that it may actually occur in my lucid, so that's what i've been worrying about for months. I think it's time for me to get over it.
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      Guess i'll just stick with it then and just trust what you say and myself as well. I better not give up if i've never even been in a lucid once during this situation. Maybe i won't have the same problems when in the dream, and it'd suck to find that out two years later. Plus my awareness is getting pretty good too.
      I'm betting all those negative thoughts won't even surface in your lucid dreams at all. The only time you should even be worried about your dad and all that stuff showing up in your dreams, is when you're already having nightmares on the daily about it. Actually, even then you shouldn't worry at all. It's your world(moreover, your own universe), you are your own God there. Things like that are minor and should be treated that way because you have the power to overcome them with ease, and that goes for any problems in life IMO.

      Remember, Believe in yourself.
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      My friend,I had the same problem before i start practising LDing.I dont have any real lds yet.I am a highly religious person myself.I was afraid that something evil will happen to me during dreams.Like demons etc.But i said to myself that a dream is a dream.You can manipulate your own dreams by having lucid dreams.To me he solution was my faith in God(please dont judge me).Nothing can touch me as long as my faith is strong.This may sound stupid to a nonbeliever.But thats me.So i believe that you HAVE TO keep up the practises.Lucid dreaming is youd key to unlock the door of a world free of negative thoughts abkut your past.Proceed without negative thoughts.A dream is a dream.
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      Hi Misanthrope392. It sounds like you already have gotten some really good advice, but I'll add my 2 cents.

      First off, if you really feel uncomfortable with the idea of lucid dreaming, then there is nothing wrong with backing off for a while. You don't have to give yourself any particular time limit. Just clear your thoughts of those negative images and fill them with peaceful ones. When you are in a more peaceful place in your life, whether in a few weeks or few years, then you'll know, and you can begin again in earnest.

      But if you do decide to keep up the effort to become a lucid dreamer now, then here are some things that I have found through my ten years of experience. I have never had anything nightmarish show up after I have become lucid. In fact, it's always been the opposite. I will be having a non-lucid nightmare that causes me to become lucid, and being lucid completely changes my focus away from whatever bad thing was going on. And I can basically begin a new dream from a clean slate. Are any of your fears showing up in non-lucid dreams? If they are, then lucidity will give you power and control. It will give you an advantage. If they aren't showing up in non-lucid dreams then my guess is that they won't show up in lucid ones where you are more in control.

      Another thing I would practice, is deciding right now thing things you want to do when you become lucid. That way, you will immediately focus on that goal, and it will fill your dream. So before going to sleep at night, or before doing a WBTB, lay in bed and visualize exactly what you want to do and how you will do it. I find when I do this, my dreams naturally seem to head in this direction even before I am lucid. I'm much more likely to question my reality and actually become lucid. And I am way more likely to remember the goal the moment I become lucid. It also gives me confidence in the dream, and things I want to accomplish come much more easily.

      I was thinking about just going into the dream with the attentions of nothing negative manifesting at all and being 100% certain of that from the start, but i do not know how well this would work.
      Yes, but instead of thinking about the negative thing not happening. Just focus entirely on the positive thing you want to accomplish. Intentions go a long way in dreams.

      Anyway, good luck in whatever you decide to do. Just don't pressure yourself either way. When I first started to try to lucid dream. I pressured myself for a month. I'd wake up discouraged because I missed my dream sign....again. Then I decided to give up. I actually believed that since I couldn't do this, that lucid dreaming must be fake and everyone was just making things up. Haha. Yep, I actually thought that for one whole day. But the night after I gave up and stopped worrying about it, I had my first lucid dream. So sometimes it helps to relax and not stress about it for a while.

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      Thanks everyone,i really appreciate your advice. I feel a lot better now and will continue to practice lucid dreaming. I've been doing reality checks and doing awareness as well for like the past 5 days or so, so i can only imagine how close i actually may be to getting lucid and experiencing freedom. I am so close and refuse to give up now. I've also been learning more about Christianity lately and have decided to become christian again. So perhaps praying would also help (: But just having four people tell me i have nothing to worry about is enough for me stay in the lucid dreaming game. I know i am dedicated, seeing as though I've been practicing this off and on for about three years (never stayed with a technique enough to see results) but now i am focusing solely on my awareness (ada actually. I'm getting the hang of it) as well as doing several reality checks throughout the day. I like to do a ton of reality checks every day (making sure I'm really questioning if I'm dreaming or not throughout them) so i can have more of a chance of at least doing one of these in my dreams. Awareness plus reality checking a lot, i believe will be a lethal combination for lucid dreaming.

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      Sounds like you have a great attitude and plan. Since you brought up praying I thought I would mention that I have had several dreams where I have prayed. And things worked out. Whether that was actually divine help or just the positive intentions of my mind, I don't know. But I like to think that if God can help us out in real life, why not help us out of a bad situation in a dream.

      I wish you the best in all that you are doing.

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      I think you should keep trying.

      Lucid dreaming can be excellent therapy:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1i6A7t6L2g

      I have used this method to help overcome traumas in my own life.

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