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      I always look up ..

      Hello all ,

      I never thought of this before but when I am dreaming and I interact with myself, I always look up and assume i'm way up there.
      Couple of examples; I once had a LD where a small girl was faced towards a wall crying, when I asked her if she was ok, she spun
      round and had these very sharp teeth. She lunged at my throat. I looked up and screamed at my self to wake up. It was scary.
      Another example was recent, earlier this week, I was in the street where I grew up. It was desolate, no lights on in houses, no people around,
      it felt like early morning. It was overcast and had a chill in the air. I found it very uninteresting for a lucid dream so I looked up and shouted at myself "Boooring".

      Why do I naturally assume i'm in the sky? Does anyone else do this?

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      Although I don't necessarily always end up in the sky during LDs, I do likewise find myself looking upwards far more often than I would in waking life. Best assumption, this is simply a symptom of sleeping on one's back. After all, in such a case, the dreamer IS facing up in waking life.

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      I think, Thesatellite, that looking up is something of a metaphor. When you look up you might be metaphorically directing directing your attention to your "higher" self, the being in control of the dream world you'd like to see adjusted. Such a gesture makes sense to me, since that's almost an automatic thing we do in waking life, when we, for instance, look to Heaven for help.

      As long as I'm here: next time this happens, you might want to take a moment to remember something like "Hey, wait, I'm not up there; I'm right here, and everywhere else, since this is my dream." You might find your lucidity getting a boost if you can convert looking up into remembering that there is no need to look up at all, because everything in this dream is You.

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      Very true Sageous. Adding to it... up is where the void is. Strangely when we think of the void we often think of staring down into a deep hole. But it's right above our heads all day! Does the void unsettle us so deeply that we collectively agree to ignore the fact that if you tilt your head back you're staring right into it? Basically nothing yet everything... for ever... Maybe it's just too much...

      As for "the whole dream being you", conceptual understanding of the implications of this is boosts lucidity. And I feel there is a whole new level of effortlessness to lucid dreaming available when I "flick the switch" and enter a state of mind where I feel this truth and "identify" as the whole dream.

      Though I enjoy that type of dreaming, it is something I rarely find myself doing. Not sure why... I want to do it more, I think it could get very interesting.

      When I am lucid I have a tendency to think of the dream as an "other" or "mother" that is there when I am awake as well, but now communication can be more direct...

      Ultimately everything is non-dual. But then there are the stories, less yet more real, dependant on duality and ego. The original and most basic must be the one of the mother and child, environment and ego.

      Some times, often far in between, I'll relax after going around living life, being human, and the world seems to shift and present itself to me as someone that loves me unconditionally. She is the mother, prevalent along side the father in many ancient creation myths, and when I see her for the first time in a long time, she takes my breath away like nothing else.

      Relevant to the thread: In these old myths, the mother is the earth and the father is the sky... The father is the highest self or no-self, non-duality, the void. The mother is the other, and arises with ego. There can be no self without other.

      Usually I adress the dream through dream characters if there are any around, and if I am alone I just talk. Either way I expect the dream to realize that I'm adressing it. Using dream characters as a mouth piece for the dream feels natural and seems to work.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Thesatellite View Post
      Hello all ,

      I never thought of this before but when I am dreaming and I interact with myself, I always look up and assume i'm way up there.
      Couple of examples; I once had a LD where a small girl was faced towards a wall crying, when I asked her if she was ok, she spun
      round and had these very sharp teeth. She lunged at my throat. I looked up and screamed at my self to wake up. It was scary.
      Another example was recent, earlier this week, I was in the street where I grew up. It was desolate, no lights on in houses, no people around,
      it felt like early morning. It was overcast and had a chill in the air. I found it very uninteresting for a lucid dream so I looked up and shouted at myself "Boooring".

      Why do I naturally assume i'm in the sky? Does anyone else do this?

      Thesatellite
      You have some scary ass LD there, kind of reminds me of my owns

      I think during LD, maybe you can't realize that you are not talking to yourself, but you are trying to talk to your other you(your sub) aka the dreaming mind.

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