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    8/14/2020 Maybe Lucid?

    by Sangfoot on 08-15-2020 at 06:47 AM
    Last night I went to bed tired and had to wake up early so I decided not to try a WBTB attempt, so I wasn't really expecting to have any lucid dreams. When I went to sleep I just re affirmed my intention to remember my dreams. However I had a series of dreams that were awesome. In them I felt much more "me" in the dream. Like it was first person, and I was in the plot, and they were very vivid and fun. I thought about it throughout the day because I would love to have more dreams in this genre, but I have not been able to think of anything I thought or did differently to provoke them. It's a mystery.

    What was really interesting about the sequence of dreams is that in them I thought I was lucid, but I think they were more like dreams about becoming lucid, with only the very lowest levels of any real self awareness or memory because the plots where crazy and I never questioned them, and in the dreams I never considered I had any other body or activated memory at all.

    Dream One: Dream Warrior Clan
    I am standing with my two sisters in a trial ground of sorts. My whole extended family is standing around the three of us and we are lined up ready to begin a trial. At this time the dream is very vivid and first person and in the dream I imagine that I am lucid now, in fact I realize that all three of us are lucid and this is a dream sharing dream! In fact that is why all my extended family has gathered, because there has finally been a night when all three of us are lucid so that the trial can be conducted! (This is why I don't believe I was actually lucid, because I was fully engaged in this plot at this point).

    I am very excited because I have wanted to dream share with my sisters for a while now and it is finally happening! My uncle M.L steps forward and starts laying out the challenges of the trial. At the time I understood that my family was like an ancient clan of dream warriors, and the three of us were being tested to see if our training had prepared us to join.

    He shouts to begin, and I look up and see a crazy scene of a hoard of all types of monsters, fantasy, sci fi, everything, running and jumping down floating hills and other floating landscapes toward us.

    I understood that the trial was to fight them off. My sisters engage both running forward shouting war cries and attacking the closest of the monsters, I watched them thinking they looked very bad ass. I thought that I probably wouldn't have to fight because they could handle them but the monsters where much tougher than they looked, and some of them were like captains that had dream control and dream powers themselves.

    My sisters had each only managed to defeat a small handful of the monsters each, and as I looked around the swarm extended as far as I could see in every direction, even from about because there were floating landscapes above us they were jumping down from also.

    At this time I am not really emotionally invested yet, I am just preparing myself to have fun fighting like I normally would. But as I am looking around trying to find a tough monster I hear my sister A.S cry and like she has been hurt and as I jerk to turn to see her, she is on the ground and a big werewolf monster that is like twenty feat tall and all white is standing over her holding a big club over his head to swing down at her.

    And I get REALLY MAD! Like more mad than I have been in years in any dream. And I start to summon up my deepest rage and strongest powers, and time slows down.

    And I enter a place beyond rage of calm deadly focus, of pressure, and destructive intent, and I want to kill them all.

    I am scared I will hurt my sisters, so I look to find my other sister A.B. and am impressed that she is still holding her own. I hold both of them in my mind so that I don't accidentally hurt them, and begin releasing my power.

    I summon my Techno (I gift in a previous dream) which begins to well up from the center of the earth spreading my Techno rhythm to the whole planet. The ground begins to shake and a steady thumping emerges from all matter.

    I summon my two swords (which won me title king of the arena in a previous dream) which fall into my outstretched arms descending from the sky.

    As I look around I think that I could defeat all the monsters with the power I had already summoned, with my rage, my rhythm, and my swords. But I am feeling strong, and am so full of rage that my sister is in real danger even though this is just a trial, and I am angry with my family for letting this test get so out of control so quickly.

    So I decide to really cut loose and summon my strongest dream power, I summon my pressure (also a power from a previous dream). Living within me is a million year old demon spirit (my deepest rage and primal arrogance and violence) that is always sleeping and only wakes up when it senses another million year spirit. It is awoken and summoned by my rage and my spirit begins to swell to a great density, gravity, and pressure. I make sure that I am still holding my sisters in my mind so that they are not crushed.

    I begin resonating with my techno beat and gently float up into the air, I lower my gaze unto the monsters that are now all paused and looking at me, and I let them meet my gaze as if to ask them who amongst them would dare to stand before me.

    And they all start running. I notice that my extended family that was monitoring the trial is scared and shocked, and they are running too as I was angry with them for endangering my sister, and not holding them in my mind to make sure they were not harmed, so my power is violent towards them also, but still not as focused with rage as toward the monsters.

    I claim dominion. Non will stand before my violence and power. I gather my rage and power, and flexing my arms back and body I challenge all foes within my dominion to face my power, I challenge them all. And I kill them all.

    In the dream it wasn't a long fight at this point. I really just wanted to express my anger and with my strongest anger summoned I flexed all my power and let out a shout, and the next second all the monsters where gone and the dream transitioned.

    With all the monsters gone the trial ground looks peaceful again. I start quickly flying away because I don't want to be here anymore. My sisters and family are gone and I am all alone. As I fly up into a blue looking sky I hit a wall and realize the sky is just a painted dome with clouds and blue painted on it. It seems really hard, and I know that it's not supposed to be passable, but I feel like it is like the nether roof in Mindcraft and I know how to glitch myself upwards through it to get out and to the roof, outside the laws, to the space I'm not supposed to get to.

    So I glitch myself through the ceiling and I end up in the vast area, and feel and incredible amazement at what I see. This space is full of everything our dream warrior clan has ever captured, confiscated, or created. There are weird devices and buildings all over and I don't really know what any of them are but I feel like they are a great treasure and am very curious to explore them.

    As I am feeling this amazement and curiosity the dream ends and I wake up.

    Analysis: When I wake up I felt excited like I had just had an awesome lucid dream, but also very emotionally drained. I still felt scared for my sister, but also excited like maybe they were actually semi-lucid also and will remember the same dreams (they did not). I don't usually feel strong emotions like that and the excitement, fear, anger, deep rage, shame of completed violence, and excitement and curiosity again at the end where almost overwhelming. I started committing the dream to memory so I would not forget it, and after rehearsing it went back to sleep.

    I had more dreams in the first person nature of this dream through the night, but non of them were as intense as this first one. I really like the first person nature of the dreams though, almost a semi lucidity. I feel like recognizing dream signs, and activating a lucid mindset in these type of dreams to really DILD would be possible.

    Updated 08-15-2020 at 06:59 AM by Sangfoot


    7/30/2020 Yess more lucid dreams

    by Sangfoot on 07-30-2020 at 06:44 PM
    Last night I finally had two lucid dreams! I was following my normal routine according to my dream goals, and was starting to feel a little disappointed since I have been trying hard to have a lucid dream for 8 days now with no success. Every time I manage a DEILD I feel so much hope like I will be able to WILD now. Actually experiencing a transition helps me to know that it's possible!

    End of a long non lucid dream I don't care about remembering, but at the end of it I was trapped in a parking garage with a large grizzly momma bear. At first I saw a bear in the distance, and I was hoping it wouldn't notice me, then I look down at my feat and see a baby bear that looks friendly. But I know that momma bears are very aggressive about protecting their babies and a lot of attacks happen around these type of misunderstandings. Anyway I look back towards the mom and of course she has noticed me and thinks I have taken her baby and starts charging me. I was terrified, I have a dream phobia about being attacked by bears, and I remembered that being attacked by a bear is one of my dream signs and BOOM

    Right when I realize that being attacked by a bear is a dream sign I become low level lucid and a totally new dream forms around me with a pop. I am in an apartment complex like I lived in as a kid and am standing around the community pool. I do the usual lucid things noticing how beautiful it looks and all that then I remembered that I wanted to try to practice having waking life self-awareness and memory as well as try to emotionally experience a true non-dual perspective in a lucid dream. I was able to practice my self awareness and memory check like I do in waking life, and I felt like at the time I strongly knew it was a dream, and had some waking life self awareness. When I thought "this is all me, this dream all comes from me" I had like a brief flash of vividness, like everything in the dream pulsed with a color change briefly then went back to normal.

    Then as I was looking around I realized that there are no dream characters here, and I am all alone. I have a dream goal to talk to a "real" person in my dreams, and maybe meet a dream guide or find someone who wants to go on an adventure with me. So I start trying to call out "is there anyone who can answer my questions?" "Is there anyone who will talk to me?" and after asking two or three times I hear someone say "sure well talk with you" behind me and I spin around and the two girls from my last lucid dream are walking towards me! This is exciting for me because this is the first recurring lucid dream characters I have ever had! They are the same height, maybe 5'10, and I again have the impression that they are sisters. One of them has blond hair, pulled up in a pony tail, and is the one who does all the talking in this dream. The other sister has silky black hair, and always stands in my peripheral vision so I don't ever get a real good look at her.

    I am very excited that they are here so I hurry over to them feeling like rushed like I have a million questions to ask and I can already feel myself starting to wake up a little, I know its going to last a couple more minutes at best like my other DILDS because I catch lucidity as I am waking up.

    I ask the blond sister "How can I get lucid more often" and she smiles indulgently at me as this is the third time I have asked her this question. In my last lucid I asked her this question I remember feeling like her answer was revolutionary and brilliant while listening to it, but couldn't remember one word of what she said when I woke up, so I really paid attention this time. She said "The most important thing is to develop/have a lucid mindset... and more words I didn't understand she is continuing to speak but its over my head". Because I was really paying attention I can tell that I am not really understanding what she is saying anymore, so I interrupt her and ask "wait, what exactly does it mean to have a lucid mindset? What SHOULD I be focusing on? What emotions should I be feeling? HOW?"

    At this point the dream is starting to fade. She looks a at me a little exasperated that I interupted her, and then she looks over my shoulder and stops speaking and just kind of smiles at me in a kind way. This is something I am noticing that when my dreams are ending whoever I'm talking to looks over my shoulder and its like they see something that confirms to them I'm about to wake up, they usually just stop talking and give me that friendly maybe see you later smile. Then the dream ends

    I remember that I can try and DEILD. I focus on laying still as I wake up. I have some fear about forgeting my first lucid dream if I try to DEILD and it fails and I wake up in a non lucid so I briefly remember the previous dream as I focus on not moving.

    When I wake up, get back to my body, I still feel very sleepy and I feel like a DEILD will be successful, I feel like the dream is just below my bed and if I relax strongly enough I will just sink into it. So I just totally let go of my body, like totally limp bone, like if I was standing I would just turn into a puddle on the ground, and I get a strong falling feeling like I am sinking through my bed. I feel like I am falling into the dream beneath my bed, like it is a giant bubble, the surface of the bubble is a brilliant white light and as I sink through it it feels very peaceful and I totally cannot real my waking life body AT ALL at this point. I sink through the white light and BOOM

    I am back in the apartment complex of the last dream again. I think holy crap I did it, that was totally a WILD transition and I made it into a dream! I am in the office next to the pool area. I look out the window and see the two sisters are still here sitting in reclining pool chairs relaxing under an umbrella. I run out to them and they are excited to see me. I go up to the blond one who was talking before and she sits up in the chair goes cross legged and turns to face me ready to answer questions, I thought she looked very cute sitting like that and was happy that she was excited to see me, and willing to answer questions.

    I am lucid still at this point, but less strongly so. I forgot to do any stabilizing in this dream and didn't bring my waking awareness or memory with me as strongly as I thought. I didn't think to do any checking since I knew it was a WILD transition, but next time I'll know that even then my awareness needs a recharging in the dream. I know I wasn't as strongly lucid because this next conversation bit is fuzzier in my memory.

    I ask her "do you believe there are things in dreams that do not come from me" I don't remember her exact answer but I remember she looked like it was a subject that she didn't really want to talk about but she did say yes.

    At this point the dream was ending and I could feel myself waking up. I got close to her and I knew that I really wanted to remember her words this time, so I told her "crap I'm waking up, can you do a review in like five seconds please!"

    She nodded and said "first develop a lucid mindset, then well find out what your name means" I interrupt at this point and say "huh we didn't do that" she continues "then well do a tarot card reading" I interrupt again and say "we didn't do that either!" Then for the first time the other sister speaks, she is standing at my left shoulder "you are confusing him" I look toward her to see her face but before I do I notice she is pointing with her finger, and it felt like she was controlling my focus with her finger because I started to look where she was pointing, and it was like I could notice something that I couldn't before because she was helping me to focus. And I noticed that the first sister had a beanie on and across her forehead stitched on the beanie it said "Tarra" and the second sister said "see thats her name" and so I asked Tarra what her sisters name was and she said "she's Skippy" like the board game risk.
    No idea what that means.

    Updated 07-30-2020 at 08:19 PM by Sangfoot

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    9-8-19 wahoo!!

    by Sangfoot on 09-08-2019 at 04:30 PM
    Yes! Finally a lucid dream! I am so excited right now I woke up 2 hours early just to write this dream down!

    Last night I was following my usual routine according to my dream goals and thread "Bedtime Priorities". I have been doing to same thing for 2 1/2 weeks now and was starting to become a little disappointed thinking it wouldn't work. I know this is silly as many of the techniques I am trying say they need at least 90 days of consistency, but without having any lucids I admit I was starting to doubt.

    I woke up after a natural REM cycle, rolled over like I usually do and according to my plan tried to WILD MILD. My previous dream was very strong so I was committing it to memory and reviewing it while I started counting my breaths. My mind was not very awake, my self-awareness did not "feel" strong and my memory was definitely not turned on. I remember loosing count around 10 which was very fast, I snapped back to myself and re affirmed that I wanted to count my breaths and remain aware. I remember getting to 10 again before I found myself in a dream.

    I have no idea how I became lucid. I don't think it was a true WILD, if it was I would remember entering the dream? My consciousness was just not very turned on, I mean I was falling asleep to the count of 10! I don't think it was a DILD, I don't remember any dream sign that sparked me to question lucidity, I just knew I was in a dream, darn I didn't even do any RC, which I am actually really bummed about because I have several I have wanted to experiment with! I want to test gravity to see if I can notice any difference, and I wanted to practice the reverse reality check I do as part of my waking self awareness.

    Here is the dream, it was by far the longest lucid dream I have ever had! Felt like maybe 15 minutes of real time. As I analyzed it I realize my lucidity was not very strong, I didn't remember to do my RC, or try to "turn on" my memory. But it was a VERY interesting dream.

    Dream One: I realize that I am dreaming, I am very excited but I don't get that pounding heart beat adrenalin rush I have gotten before that wakes me up. I just KNOW I am dreaming. The dream feels very stable, and I am curious to see how long it will last.

    I am in this white concrete dorm room with two beds in it and a window covered with bars. It is the setting of my last dream. I have this intense feeling of almost claustrophobia and I really don't want to be here in this room anymore. My friend from college, TP, is still in the room from the last dream.

    We are on the second story so I head to the hallway to try and go downstairs and leave. In the hallway I notice these pictures that were made in my last dream. There where three pictures, each one centered around one of the DC's from my last dream. I take a moment to look at each of them because I think they are so cool, and I stand there just so impressed at what the brain can do. Each of the pictures was made by taking a snapshot of my field of vision centered on one of the DC's and compressing my whole field of vision down to picture size, then making it black and white. I stayed in the hall for a while looking at all three of them thinking about how my brain takes pictures of my whole field of vision not just what I am focused on.

    The feeling of claustrophobia returns and I realize there are no stairs to exit. I go over to the window in the room but it is covered in this thick iron mesh. I affirm to myself that it cannot keep me in here and push myself forward to phase through the mesh and be outside. It worked really well I find myself hanging from the bars on the other side on the second story of a house. My friend TP rushes over and is amazed at what I have done like he has become lucid and asks for my advice so I tell him to stabilize the dream by rubbing his hands together.

    I drop down to the street and look around the neighborhood. I don't recognize any of the houses and I want to get back to my house to find my bed and see if my body is there because my dream goal is to talk to myself.

    I start stomping my foot down and willing that the houses will change and I will be in my own neighborhood. It didn't work but I did get some crazy visuals of houses morphing into other houses. I started running down the block and found myself in a more urban setting like I was walking between sky scrappers.

    It's not what I wanted but it's cool and there should be some DC's around here. I start looking for some to talk to and see what they are like. I see a group of 4 or 5 but none of them look very friendly so I move on.

    I see these two girls walking and move towards them down an ally. They are sisters, one looks 25 and the other 9 or 10. As I move towards them I get a feeling like they are important, and they will talk with me.

    I go up to them and ask "can I ask you a question?" the younger one nods her head but before she can answer I look up and see this shadow void person moving towards us down the ally.

    I don't know how to describe him, he was very weird. He had the shape of an adult man, but there was nothing to him, but not like a shadow, like a translucent void. Like he was from another place and couldn't appear as anything else here but a ripple across the background.

    He starts walking toward me and reaches out an arm to start pushing me. I feel my lucidity start slipping away. The really weird part is that when he was around I got this strong feeling like I had seen him many times before. Like his appearance and presence was not a shock to me at all.

    But right when I was about to lose the dream the little girl grabbed onto my arm real quick and said "Stop, you know he is allowed to ask one question first" and my lucidity snapped back and it felt like I was in the ally again, and I remembered that I wanted to ask a question.

    So I turned to her and asked "how can I become lucid more often" and she answered me in what felt like a profound way and a remember repeating it to myself over and over throughout the rest of the dream, but I just can't remember it now!!

    After answering she releases my arm and I immediately lose lucidity, but I don't wake up.

    The dream transitions and I am back in a college setting. This part of the dream feels very vivid but I am not lucid. I remember seeing my sister A.S and talking with her and telling her something to continue our experiment with shared dreaming. As I am leaving the college campus my other sister A.B comes up to me and I realize I am dreaming and lucidity snaps back to me like it was happening for the first time in this dream. I feel like I have just done a DILD but have no idea what sparked my lucidity. I tell A.B that we are dreaming and she doesn't seem surprised at all. I leave the campus and the dream transitions.

    I remember asking my question to the sisters at this point and having accomplished that dream goal I just start feeling really horny. I want to find a willing DC and have some sexy time. For the next several minutes I am wondering the streets looking for a willing woman. Every one I meet seems angry at the world, and is not very attractive. I remember feeling very disappointed with this situation. Eventually I accept that it's just not going to happen, and then I start feeling the dream end and start waking up.

    I remember that I want to try to DEILD when I wake up so I start laying very still and affirm that I am not going to move. I start having the most crazy hypnagogic imagery I have ever seen! I see a central very bright light that looks like the effect from star trek when they fire a proton torpedo, except instead of red it was shifting green and blue all wavy like. Then I start to see an extremely bright white light overlapped on top. I start to think that it must be daytime and my sleep mask has slipped and I am seeing sunlight. I hang on and eventually feel my body back in my bed, but I later realize I was in a different position that I was really sleeping and this was a FA, I lay still and slip back into a dream.

    I know that I am dreaming again and am amazed the the DEILD worked. The dream isn't very stable and the visuals are cartoonish. The whole world looks like a cheap farm simulator game. There are pairs of barnyard animals roaming over a green fenced in field.

    I see a pair of chickens that I realize are the twin sisters from my last dream and start to hover over to them. I don't have a body in this dream and I am just kind of hovering, and I realize I cant hear anything either. So on my way over to them I try to stabilize the dream and start hearing something. My ears pop loudly and I start hearing some chickens clucking or something.

    Right when I am about to get to the sisters the dream void man returns. He is rushing towards me with his arm extended and I feel him pushing me out of the dream again. I rush towards the sisters and yell out asking "can I ask another question?" and the void man replies "You are only allowed one question per dream!"

    As he starts shoving me out of the dream I hold up my hand and yell "wait!, what if I don't ask a new question but the same one again?" He pauses and this and during this moment one of the twin sister chickens comes over and she tells me to ask my question. So I turn to her and repeat "what can I do to be lucid more often?"

    Again she answers me in what feels like a profound way. At this time I can still remember her answer from last time and I remember feeling amazed that she could answer using such different language and analogy but coming to the same point. Her second answer felt very useful and I felt like I was understanding more of the point she was trying to convey the first time.

    Then before I could react the void man rushed up behind me and the dream ended.

    I woke up and started replaying the dream immediately to try and commit it to memory. I was shocked that I could not remember the twin sisters answers to my question. In the dream it felt so clear and I even repeated it to myself several times in the dream. I really wish I could remember her answers! I have to get ready to leave now, but I am going to be analyzing this dream all day!

    So thankful to have had such a nice lucid dream! I hope this is the first of many to come!

    Update on Dream Goals

    by Sangfoot on 08-27-2019 at 11:16 PM
    Wow I have learned a lot the last couple of days by reading many of Sageous' posts on the forums. I feel like enough has changed that I need to update my dream goals.

    Rather than forming persistent realities and meeting recurring dream characters, I would rather practice having waking life meta self-awareness in my lucid dreams. I want to meet and talk to my DC's and learn to interpret from them what I can learn about myself.

    In addition to maintaining dream recall I would like to add the goal of turning on memory when in my dreams. Sageous talks about 3 legs to the lucid dreaming stool. Self-awareness, memory, and sleeping (not sure about last one hmm). I realize I have never tried to access or turn on memory in my dreams, which changes everything. One specific thing I want to "notice" and change about my dreams is that I almost never remember who my dream DC's are representing in the dream from waking life.

    Complete Task of the Month is fine.

    Lol I only was able to practice gravity RC for 2 days from 8-25-2019 to 8-27-2019. I am switching up this goal more towards the practice of the reverse reality check. To practice being self-aware in the present throughout the day, focusing on a non-dual perspective. I would like to do this for 90 days starting 8-27-2019.

    And finally to have fun and enjoy dreaming!

    updated Dream Goals:
    - Meet and talk to my DC's and learn to interpret from them what I can learn about myself. Identify dream archetypes that are present and what I can learn through them about myself.
    - Maintain my dream recall (DJ and remembering in morning)
    - Practice "turning on" memory in dream. "My body is sleeping (here), this is not my waking body, I am dreaming". Practice remembering "who I am" in dream.
    - Complete the Task of the Month (become a pirate lol)
    - Practice Reverse Reality Check, meta self-awareness, non-dual perspective, for 90 days starting 8-27-2019
    - Enjoy dreaming and have fun!

    Updated 08-27-2019 at 11:20 PM by Sangfoot

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    Lucid Dreaming Goals

    by Sangfoot on 08-26-2019 at 04:54 AM
    These were my dream goals in 2013

    "My Dream Goals
    - Form persistent realities (Meet a recurring dream character)
    - Improve my dream recall
    - Complete the Task of the Month
    - Have Fun! And enjoy learning to dream again!"

    As I review them I was able to actually complete 3 of them. My dream recall was actually very good then, and in the 6 years since it has persisted very well. Right now I am able to remember 5 good dreams on any given night when trying, and when not specifically trying to remember dreams I always expect to be able to remember at least one or two.

    I was able to complete several task of the month challenges. I looked at the TOTM challenge thread yesterday and was disappointed that it seemed a little dead. There were still challenges posted but no one had responded to it at all. I liked the posted challenge to take over a ship with a pirate crew, so for now that will be one of my dream goals.

    I always enjoy practicing lucid dreaming techniques, and of course the dreams themselves are freaking amazing! I recently read a forum post by Hukif talking about what a natural process it is that we dream, and that just like I would like to know more about myself in waking life it is just as natural to want to explore and know my dreaming life, as the two are intimately connected!

    Unfortunately I have not been able up to this point to have the kind of consistent lucidity necessary to form persistent realities. They are still my major long term goal though. I have decided that for now to help progress towards that goal I am just going to imagine that all of my dreams are happening in the same reality, even if that reality is that they in some way relate to me. I am sort of hoping this attitude will help create persistent dream characters and plot lines. Maybe those characters are some sort of janitorial or spiritual staff tasked with the maintenance of my dreams behind the scenes or something?

    I would like to add a fifth goal of performing the gravity RC for 60 days. As I get more experience with my own lucid dreams I hope to be able to customize this RC to me more, but for now I am practicing it as explained by Hukif.

    So my Dream Goals:
    - Form persistent realities (Meet a recurring dream character)
    - Maintain my dream recall (DJ and remembering in morning)
    - Complete the Task of the Month (become a pirate lol)
    - Practice gravity RC for 60 days starting 8-25-2019
    - Enjoy dreaming and have fun!
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