Thread: Age and Lucidity

Originally Posted by michael79

What portal, I'm genuinely interested in portals!

My only experience with portals came during an early WBTB that turned into a period of void (sleep yoga?) After 30 minutes or so of dreamless sleep that was not quite sleep I emerged from a silvery opaque portal into the waking state. The portal was oval shaped and very real. I was not dreaming at the time.....or more specifically, I did not recall a dream upon awakening. I did not enter a portal in a lucid dream. I have tried to get back to that portal consciously with no success.

Conscious agents in the dream or???

Donald Hoffman's theory of conscious agents that I referred to is a proposed definition of consciousness that begins at a very basic level. He postulates that consciousness is....reality.....and that reality, as we perceive it, is false. He does not address this theory specifically to lucid dreaming.

As a student of the more spiritual applications of lucid dreaming I have found a deeper understand of consciousness....and reality...... to be very helpful in blending the waking state with the dream state as we do when we dream lucidly. If you are interested in such this might be worth 40 minutes of your time:

https://aeon.co/videos/its-impossibl...neuroscientist

Originally Posted by lenscaper

My only experience with portals came during an early WBTB that turned into a period of void (sleep yoga?) After 30 minutes or so of dreamless sleep that was not quite sleep I emerged from a silvery opaque portal into the waking state. The portal was oval shaped and very real. I was not dreaming at the time.....or more specifically, I did not recall a dream upon awakening. I did not enter a portal in a lucid dream. I have tried to get back to that portal consciously with no success.

By the void do you mean blackness state? Are you saying that your consciousness emerged from HI(like a big silver circle that you went through and woke up) portal?

Originally Posted by michael79

By the void do you mean blackness state?

It was early in my training and I had been trying really hard to master WILD......spending very long periods of time in HI. These sessions were having mixed results. I remember this as a very strong session. By that I mean that I was able to put my body to sleep while staying very awake and aware. After a very long time the HI just stopped coming and I slipped into a blackness that was not quite sleep. This was the first time that happened.

Are you saying that your consciousness emerged from HI(like a big silver circle that you went through and woke up) portal?

That's pretty much exactly what happened. Except it was not like emerging from HI......the HI had stopped before I drifted into this state. It was more like emerging from a deep peaceful void.

The portal was more oval shaped and very well defined. It was an opaque silvery color. I was laying on my back in the bed but the emergence was a physical thing.......I felt as if my body had passed through it.....or more like I had tumbled out of it. I could see the portal as I emerged and just after. It was in the air to the left of my head. I awoke feeling incredibly refreshed and exhilarated.

I have been in this void a number of times since but I have not experienced that kind of passage again.

Quite often these days the HI will stop....as if I have run out of imagery or run out of dreams. When that happens and I am able to stay awake a bit longer I generally end up in this void.