Thread: would it be a sin?

Originally Posted by Jeremysr

I don't think you are sinning by being bisexual, but when you do something wrong, bisexually, you are sinning and that's wrong. The reason is, God didn't design us to be bisexual and we are going against God by doing things he didn't design us to do.

I think if I were God I would leap at the chance to see my creations doing new and interesting things, not just the same old stuff all the time. In addition what right has anyone to care about what two people do together in private, and call it a 'sin'?! Do bisexuals deserve an eternity of torture? Hell no! (no pun intended)
Call me communist if you will, but there it is.

EDIT:
Bisexual - read "person who does bad things in lucid dreams (etc.)"
It basically works out as the same argument.
So, no it's not a sin.

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

I think if I were God I would leap at the chance to see my creations doing new and interesting things, not just the same old stuff all the time. In addition what right has anyone to care about what two people do together in private, and call it a 'sin'?! Do bisexuals deserve an eternity of torture? Hell no! (no pun intended)
Call me communist if you will, but there it is.

EDIT:
Bisexual - read "person who does bad things in lucid dreams (etc.)"
It basically works out as the same argument.
So, no it's not a sin.

Of course you would do that if you were God, but God isn't like you. He does things differently. He's completely different in the way he thinks.

Originally Posted by dsr

Then when did homosexuality come into existence? (And please don't say that it doesn't exist in the present but is rather a choice certain people make to be different. If that's you're argument, let me inform you that individuals of many other animal species exhibit homosexuality.

I don't know what you mean, homosexuality doesn't "exist", it's just something you are or do. (I don't mean you...)

Oh, I thought you were saying that there is no such thing as a "heterosexual" or "homosexual" but that it's a person's choice to partake in gay acts. I gave the link because the fact that homosexual individuals are present in other species of mammals just like in Homo sapiens suggests that homosexuality is at least partly genetic and proves that it is not some kind of unusual behavior that people exhibit deliberately to be different or whatever. Since this appears not to have been your argument, this whole discussion is irrelevant. Besides, this thread is about whether committing a sin in an LD is a sin IRL, so let's get back on topic. Sorry for going off on a tangent; I just agreed with MoD that the Bible seems to contradict some incredibly strict interpretations of itself such as the idea that while God gives you freedom of thought, you will go to hell for thinking violent thoughts. Nevertheless, God says in Leviticus 20:13 that people who exhibit homosexual behavior should be put to death.

I really look at the new testament dictionary defines Testament as a like a contract. Gods Contract With Humanity. Now alot of Christinaity as a whole is based off of St. Paul not Jesus. Jesus said to love one another Paul says wha does righteousness have with unrighteousness? Paul had alot of pride and he always hated someone. First he hated Christians than he became one and spread a different message than what Christ taught for example:

Sex POV(Point of View) of Paul(1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ): "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
*CONTRADICTION*
POV of Christ(Matthew 21:32 ): "Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him."



Woman POV of Paul(1 Corinthians 14:34-35 ): "women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
*CONTRADICTION*
POV of Christ: "Just then his disciples returned and were surprised to find him talking with a woman. But no one asked, "What do you want?" or "Why are you talking with her?""
*CONTRADICTION*
Slavery POV of Paul(Ephesians 6:5): "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."
POV of Christ(Matthew 23:8): "But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers."

So you see Christainity is founded almost entirely by Paul it seems like. Along with the stereotypes people assume to be comprised of someone devoted to GOD and Jesus Christ. Jesus asked for LOVE. Love others as you would yourself, Love God and Have Unconditional Love. Humanity would drop the hate if we accepted one another for who we are. Jesus went against Social norms. If there is a law that does interfere with Love than it should be taken down.

Paul said to accept those who rule over you Good or Bad. Jesus said to love the lord your God. Accept God's will NOT The Governments will if it goes against God's Will.

Like I said I take mainly from New Testament to prove my points there are a few from Old Testaments by I only take Words of Wisdom like Proverbs, Jobs and Eccelanties(Spelling). Mainly from Christ. Thats why I say I am a true christian not catholic, lutheran or any other denomination of the church. I follow Christ words. Common sense If The Pope told You To Do "A" and God Told You To Do "B." Which would you do? *Times Up* Go with "B!"

Originally Posted by Jimbo9889

So you see Christainity is founded almost entirely by Paul it seems like. Along with the stereotypes people assume to be comprised of someone devoted to GOD and Jesus Christ. Jesus asked for LOVE. Love others as you would yourself, Love God and Have Unconditional Love. Humanity would drop the hate if we accepted one another for who we are. Jesus went against Social norms. If there is a law that does interfere with Love than it should be taken down.

Paul said to accept those who rule over you Good or Bad. Jesus said to love the lord your God. Accept God's will NOT The Governments will if it goes against God's Will.

Like I said I take mainly from New Testament to prove my points there are a few from Old Testaments by I only take Words of Wisdom like Proverbs, Jobs and Eccelanties(Spelling). Mainly from Christ. Thats why I say I am a true christian not catholic, lutheran or any other denomination of the church. I follow Christ words. Common sense If The Pope told You To Do "A" and God Told You To Do "B." Which would you do? *Times Up* Go with "B!"

That's a very good perspective, i agree completely

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

what right has anyone to care about what two people do together in private, and call it a 'sin'?! Do bisexuals deserve an eternity of torture?

answer to first question: God has that right, he's the person who commanded people NOT to do that until they're married and to only do that with the opposite gender
second question: no, being bisexual wont give you an eternity in hell, because there are ways to get to heaven even if you do sin, if that wasn't true then EVERYONE would be damned to hell because it's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to go a lifetime without doing one wrong thing. also, one sin isn't enough to damn you to hell unless it's very serious like murder or suicide, and still even after that if you feel bad enough about it and repent there are still ways