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      Why does my subconscious oppose lucrid dreaming

      Often when I become aware that I'm dreaming I feel a part of me tries to convince me otherwise. I first noticed this when I found myself regularly asking people in my dream if I'm dreaming, they always tell me I'm not. Also, I find that once I start questioning the world around me it starts to make more sense. For example, if I notice that my reflection isn't accurate and conclude that I'm dreaming, my reflection will then appear normal and it's almost as if I can hear my subconscious saying "see, everything's normal, you're awake". I also often have false awakenings while lucid dreaming and find myself desperately searching for proof that I'm still asleep. I'm sure I often fail to find this proof and soon forget that I'm asleep and as a result, don't remember this ever happening. Does this happen to anyone else and does anyone have any theories on why?

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      I think it is a defence mechanism of your brain. If you see anything out of ordinary, do something extraordinary then you'll really convince that it's a dream. I told many times that it is a dream to my family or friends in my LDs. Never have I gotten any satisfying answer. They were always like "No, it's not. Are you crazy ? " But I always ignored them and flew through the window. So do not be discouraged by that. In time you'll see that you are more in control. By the way, do several RCs.
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      lol - I tend to to something drastic like fall over on purpose just to make sure - Coz its doesnt hurt, im certain or i try to find my hands and if i do then im certain too

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      Some people feel the pain in dreams so hurting yourself is not very reliable It's best that you do at least 3 RC
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      I don't think there's an explanation for it, it just happens. One theory is this...the inhibitor is the result of expecting things to be normal when you are awake. You expect everything to be normal and not dreamlike. It may help if you change your perception a little more toward dreaming like expecting oddities to happen because you are dreaming.

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      Indeed, it is a definite drawback when you're just learning, but everyone can get used to it with a little perseverance and dedication.

      A brilliant method (yet not quite so straight-forward) is to just remember the feeling of your own well-being in your dream at the time of all this happening, at the time when your subconcious is heretically convincing you that everything is real, try and remember back to your mix of emotions and various thoughts.

      You'll realise that you felt much differently to how you feel right now- maybe emotions of discomfort about your general surroundings, things maybe not feeling so right and probably the biggest one is feeling like you want to be back to normal and wanting to go back "home".

      Remember those emotions and try and associate them with dreaming, with time you wont be met with justifications by your subconcious as you'll "just know" that you're dreaming.
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      Hello!

      That happens to me all the time, it's almost as if I'm not allowed to have lucid dreams! My dreams usually just get really really weird if I start to think I'm dreaming - and it takes my mind off the fact that I'm LDing and I get all caught up in the weirdness of the dream, or the opposite happens and weird things stop happening just as I start to think I'm dreaming and I fall for it all the time.

      I find I'm extremely gullible aswell- like the weirdest things never even seem weird to me during the dream, I just go along with it then wake up thinking 'that was so obvious!'


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      Wow thanks for all the comments guys.

      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=67026

      I have the most horribly unrealistic dreams and I still can't realize that I am dreaming.
      That's not like the exact same question or anything...

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      I get this a lot, too. Especially with dream characters who don't believe it is a dream. Maybe I secretly just love proving it to them. "Oh yeah? Watch this..."

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      Scientists say it is something to do with the low level of beta brain waves when we are dreaming but that doesn't account for the subconscious actively distracting us, all I know is it's infuriating. Apparently the only way to beat it is by having an unbending intent to be aware when you're dreaming, if you can keep it up long enough it eventually gives in.

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      Yeah I can definitely recall that. I remember I didn't think about it much when I did have my best DILD. It just happened, I never doubted it and I was never even close to losing lucidity. I can't even remember how it ended it was so long.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Swingdance View Post
      Often when I become aware that I'm dreaming I feel a part of me tries to convince me otherwise. I first noticed this when I found myself regularly asking people in my dream if I'm dreaming, they always tell me I'm not.
      A lot of people seem to have trouble with DCs telling them they're awake, but I've read about a few people whose DCs actually help them get lucid. Sometimes I'll realize I'm dreaming and tell a few DCs who happen to be nearby. They usually look at me kinda funny, but they've never started arguing (maybe that's because I'll start flying away and forget about them before they have a chance to say anything, lol).

      As for my subconscious not wanting me to lucid dream...I had did have a very odd lucid once. My subconscious "told" me it's opinion rather directly. Here's an excerpt from my DJ:

      Spoiler for Dream Excerpt:
      "When you see the shadows falling,
      When you hear that cold wind calling,
      Hold on tight to your dream."
      -ELO

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      Oh I had the same problem years ago, all my normal dreams were either FA or dreams with a really good plot as to how I got to the place were I was... And then everything was going as good as reality, so I couldn't tell wheter I was dreaming or not and had to find something my brain were not able to mimic in my dreams, thats how I found gravity to be my best RC lol
      Well, there were the nightmares too, wich were mostly lucids, but very rare <.<

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      Yeah thanks Walms, that was helpful!

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      Quote Originally Posted by nautilus View Post
      I've read about a few people whose DCs actually help them get lucid.
      Good point I get this all the time, also. I guess some part of me just has an agenda all its own.

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      A bit different...

      In my dreams it rather opposite. People around me will often remind me Im dreaming. Or I'll tell them and they believe me. Sometimes I'll do something amazing to convince them, but in the end they acknowledge its a dream. On occasion I've even had arguments over whose dream we're in, mine of theirs.

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