Thread: About to quit

Originally Posted by DreamingDragon

it seems LD isnt for me, as you notied from my siggy, i only manage 1 LD.....

for past month i been trying very hard to have LD. but lastnight i had 3 give Dead give aways yet i didnt notie them, I moved from my old house, so when i looked outside i was the old front yard(Should been give away) then i asked DC, what is your dream job, then i asked them again, and YET I DIDNT NOT BECOME LD.

I FAIL!!!! I NEED TIPS PLZ!

The most important tip is to be patient! If you're trying to hard, and you're not making any progress, hold off for a little while. The paradox is that, sometimes you can try too hard, and your anticipation of not wanting to fail is what makes you fail. And on the other hand, sometimes you can try and try and try, fail, stop trying, and then BOOM you get a spontaneous lucid just by giving it a rest.

Hell, I've been lucid dreaming for a really long time, and sometimes I can still go for a month or so without having one. And also, if I can have a dream where I'm a part of the X-men, hanging out, partying and drinking with other Superheroes and then Broly from Dragonball Z comes in and we get into a massive war...and STILL not realize that I'm dreaming...you shouldn't be worried at all because you didn't recognize your old yard. LOL.

Just give it time and be patient. You'll have dreams for the rest of your life. No need to rush.

But i want them now so i can expericance what I want!

Originally Posted by DreamingDragon

But i want them now so i can expericance what I want!

But it's a skill. It takes time. There are some things you just can't rush. If you actually want it, you'll be willing to wait for it. And trust me: It's worth the wait.

Have you tried the Wake-Back-to-Bed method yet?

when i wake up and have LD on my mind when i fall alseep, i havent really tryed it. Usialy my mind loves to drift into other things like Dragons/harry potter lol. It never ever stays on the same thing longer then 2 min.

What have you been trying? Dream journal? Dream signs? Reality checking (if so, how?)? Training your memory for MILD? Any aids? Figured out your REM cycles?

Originally Posted by DreamingDragon

[...] and YET I DIDNT NOT BECOME LD.

What?

take a 2 weeks break. :/. Thats how I got my first LD, just dont worry about getting one

Oneironaut is 100% correct. I remember with me, I had been going at it for a little over a year with no luck whatsoever. I finally gave up, and that very night I had a lucid dream. Sometimes you just need to relax and give it a break, even if you don't get a lucid dream as a result, you will be refreshed and ready to start again!

Also, as Oneironaut said, it is a skill that you must learn. If you wanted to learn to play an instrument, draw fascinating sketches, etc. It would take years for your skills to develop, and with hard work you would eventually get there. It is no different for Lucid dreaming, it is going to take a long time to get your skill up so you can have them on a regular basis.

As for tips with Lucid Dreaming, I would say try one or more of these:
1. Take a 1-2 week break from lucid dreaming, try not to even think about it during that period.
2. Increase your awareness of the world. Try to notice and appreciate little details in life through all five senses. Not only does it make the world more fascinating, but it follows into your dreams and makes you notice differences and strangeties easier.
3. Since you usually dream about things that happen before bed, why not use that to your advantage? I found that pictures make the biggest impression on me, so watch a movie, read a comic, or draw some pictures about lucid dreaming for 2 or so hours then go to bed. (I did this and had my longest LD ever, 20-30 minutes, when my longest before that was about 5 minutes) P.S. Don't just do it to do it, do something that inspires you.

Anyway, good luck.

* whacks DreamingDragon in the head with the Eiffel tower*

O ye of little faith!

When did Winston Churchill ever say: "Golly, these Nazi chaps really know their stuff. Aryan discipline and all. We all know the master race will end up ruling Europe; why not start developing a taste for Wagner and sauerkraut? It'll take a bit of getting used to but I'm sure before long we'll all be downing steins and slapping our thighs with good old Fritz like nothing ever happened."

No! Churchill said:

"Never never never never never never never never NEVER give up." (Got a bit carried away that day).

Did Napoleon at Rivoli say: "Holy merde, I've got the Pope's army planning a secret attack on me in addition to fighting off these Austrians...Cock...Well, it's too late for France but if we all run away now we should get home in time for Coronation Street" !?? No! He said "On n'aime que ce qu'on ne possède pas tout entier!" (Translation: "Eat my croissants you yodelling Austrian bastards!")

Did Dr. Seuss, after having his first story rejected 27 times by the publishers he submitted it to, say "Well, looks like I'm not meant to be a success. Might as well go back to shoving my hand up a cow's arse for a living" ? NO! Seuss said some irritating gibberish in kitschy rhyme that I frankly can't make heads nor tails of. But he didn't give up! That's why he succeeded, and why you will if you persist, and won't if you give up.
"Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time." - Thomas Edison

* whacks DreamingDragon in the head with the Eiffel tower again*

Impressive, Paragon, that was a lovely speech/rant.

thank you, i guess i'll stop, cause i been trying for 2 months now, and i guess i'll take a 2 week break.

Yes. Slow down. Find a pace. Stick with that pace till you see a result. If not, speed up a little. See where that takes you. Rinse and repeat, relax and review. Read your dream journal to see how your dreams change over time. The more aware, the more you remember, the better it is. Be patient, stay calm, and don't think too hard about it.

It's just a dream.

Concentrate on recall and maintain a dream journal.
The more you are fully aware of your ordinary dreams, the more likely you are to become lucid.

When you try MILD, do so after WBTB. Don't just repeat the mantra but visualise.
Make sure this is the last thing on your mind as you fall asleep.

When ever I have a proper attempt at MILD it works.
When it doesn't work, I know myself I've been a bit lazy.

Lastly, just enjoy your dreams. I now look forward to bed every night, wondering what I'm going to see. Even if I never had another Lucid I would still make the effort.
Last night I saw a massive UFO hovering over my town, like V or Independence day.
It was really cool.

Just don't let your break turn permanent. Leave your dream journal somewhere obvious, so you will be tempted to read through it and remember all the fun possibilities.

DreamingDragon, I know how you feel.I haven't had an LD for quite some time and I never developed any great skill for it. However, I have continued to enjoy the non-lucid dreams that I have and occasionally I am able to exert influence if not control my dreams. It doesn't happen very often, but flying in a non-LD is almost as good as flying in an LD. Enjoy your non-lucids, but keep working towards lucidity. All the advice has been good so far and when you finish with your break, I wish you speedy success

Enjoy the ride!

Originally Posted by Amethyst Star

flying in a non-LD is almost as good as flying in an LD.

Blimey, your normal dreams must be pretty vivid if you think that.

Originally Posted by paragon

Blimey, your normal dreams must be pretty vivid if you think that.

I said almost. It depends on the dream

I haven't flown successfully in years until last night! It was awesome and I wish it had lasted longer.

Seriously, stop trying to force it. I found that once I was casual about the whole thing, they started comming through thick and fast.