Thread: I've had lucid dreams since childhood. I have no limits. I don't understand others who have limits.

JamesLD wrote: "some people are natural lucid dreamers, and some people aren't. its that simple. its just like how some people have the gift to naturally play piano extremely well, a prodigy if you will, now other people may not have the gift of naturally being a piano master, but they can learn."


Thank you JamesLD for this answer. THIS is the explanation I've been looking for and you answered it perfectly. While others only could see what their mind was telling them was arrogant, you looked deep and answered wisely. Now I understand. And yes, as I stated earlier I should've researched this community more before posting.

And Novise has a very wise observation and I thank you for sharing your deep thoughts. Excellent!

Ok, glad we cleared that up. Welcome to DV. I can assure you most of us are incredibly jealous. I often wonder if persistence and determination can make someone a natural like yourself. I imagine it would be easier if we all started at a very young age.

Prodigy can be surpassed with sheer training and willpower. There is just one flaw in this. Usually prodigys train too.

Just train harder.

Originally Posted by gameover

Ok, glad we cleared that up. Welcome to DV. I can assure you most of us are incredibly jealous. I often wonder if persistence and determination can make someone a natural like yourself. I imagine it would be easier if we all started at a very young age.

I feel the same way about musicians and singers. I'm not musically inclined like most of my family. Now that I am looking at dreaming in that way I can understand. I never placed much value on my dreams and therefore didn't think it was a big deal (took it for granted I guess). They're just amusement to me while I sleep. I know a lot of people are into dream interpretation and flying means this or that, but to me it's just been entertainment. I should further study this forum. Interesting stuff.

Originally Posted by Eddy

JamesLD wrote: "some people are natural lucid dreamers, and some people aren't. its that simple. its just like how some people have the gift to naturally play piano extremely well, a prodigy if you will, now other people may not have the gift of naturally being a piano master, but they can learn."


Thank you JamesLD for this answer. THIS is the explanation I've been looking for and you answered it perfectly. While others only could see what their mind was telling them was arrogant, you looked deep and answered wisely. Now I understand. And yes, as I stated earlier I should've researched this community more before posting.

And Novise has a very wise observation and I thank you for sharing your deep thoughts. Excellent!

No problem eddy, im sorry some people here were hostile towards you, I know you weren't being arrogant, you just had an honest question.
WELCOME TO DREAM VIEWS!

Originally Posted by gameover

Imagine posting on a Cerebral Palsy forum that you have complete control of your muscles and can't understand why other people have trouble. And that maybe they're just "trying too hard", because it's easy for you.

The original post does come off as extremely arrogant. And unlike Eddy has claimed, I don't see any way that it could have been phrased to make it sound less arrogant. If this was supposed to be a legit question, it didn't come off that way. A little research into lucid dreaming or this community would have been wise before making this post.

^ this

Aquanina... I remember you from back in the day. Seems that a few old timers are still hangin' around. I hope lifes been good to you.

I know... completely off topic.

Originally Posted by gameover

Aquanina... I remember you from back in the day. Seems that a few old timers are still hangin' around. I hope lifes been good to you.

I know... completely off topic.

Yeah it's nice to see you again. I will forever associate you with a super mario bros avatar/sig.

I was invited to submit my experiences for a movie about dreams (from a mainstream director), but when it came down to getting paid for helping write the script the producer didn't want to pay what I felt the time was worth, but would give me credit in the film's credits. I don't care about seeing my name in a film. What I cared about was compensation and it wasn't enough.

Is everyone ignoring this? Surely this alone is enough to label the guy as a liar, the whole delusions of grandeur and all that.

The thread is basically called 'I can do everything, why can't you, IT'S EASY you moron'.

The guy WAS arrogant with his title thread, and never stopped being arrogant; indirectly AND directly calling everyone who thinks/knows he was being arrogant closed minded and all that.

While others only could see what their mind was telling them was arrogant, you looked deep and answered wisely.

You see, we were too STUPID to realise he wasn't being arrogant!

He also goes on to repeatedly label himself as openminded, creative, optimistic n all that, clearly indicating that if you don't have the control he claims to, you arent openminded, creative, optimistic or any of that.

I guess I don't place limits on myself while I'm awake and that comes out in my dreams. I have a lot of hope and an optimistic person.

See that's where we're all going wrong, we're placing limits on ourselves! We have to learn to be as free spirited as this guy, he should be the shining beacon of hope to all of humanity. LEAD US, O GREAT SHINY ONE!

So perfect control, lucid dreaming since childhood, perfect 19 years of happy marriage still finding his wife stunningly attractive, experienced negative G, been approached by at least one mainstream film director, creative, optimistic, free spirited, blah blah blah, and then leaves when criticised JUSTIFIABLY for being a complete ass.

I'm not saying I don't believe this guy, it's completely plausible that all of this is true. For the record I don't believe him though. And he's arrogant. There's no two ways about it.

At the end of the day I think the best point brought up by some of the critics/skeptics is that so often, the people who say they can do anything NEVER have any advice, they never say how they did it or got to that point. It's very annoying and I've seen it done before on another forum where I flat out asked the guy for advice who was bragging big time. He had nothing, just more bragging. It truly is a red flag.

I tried to explain my theory on why he thought he could do anything, it's his worldview basically. It doesn't make him a liar. But flying through solid objects does not mean you can do anything.

Also, I have read parts of several dream journals on here and yet to come across a journal of someone who can do anything they want anyway. Is there one?

Skepticism is a good thing, so is criticism, he really should have handled the criticism better. Coming to a forum like this and slowly learning that you aren't that mind-blowing of a dreamer can be a tough pill to swallow, I know, I had to also.

sounds cool what you do, but sometimes I enjoy limits in my dreams. For example, DC's who have their own freewill, or falling from a fly and hitting the ground because you think about gravity. I find it hilarious. I want to battle a giant steampunk robot that is attacking a victorian city with limited weopons and only the ability to jump high, oh and jump off walls even higher type thing.... mwahaha yyeees.

This isn't BS I am also a 40 yr old male and am lucid constantly and have great control in my lucids. I started around 8 or 9 yrs old. When you been doing it from childhood its old hat to such a person. Thusly people who are having a ruff time of it can't believe there are people like this guy and me. No doub't there are many more such persons.

Hehe, this has turned into a dating thread.

"40 year old male, natural lucid dreamer. Looking for hypogenic girlfriend."

Welcome to Dream Views, Eddy.

I'm sorry to see you were met with such adversity, but since you are new here, you have to understand that these types of threads pop up all the time. People constantly come in here rambling on about how they can do anything at anytime in manners that are transparently empty boasts. I believe that you didn't mean to seem arrogant, but you have to consider your audience. There are hundreds/thousands of members here who give their all to attaining lucid control, failing often. So when you come in talking about how you have complete control, and running off a laundry list of what you can do, it does kind of come off as a "look at me, I'm more skilled than you. Too bad you're not as good as I am!" kinda introduction.

That being said; I understand both your intent and your question. The fact is; you've answered your own question - on more than one occasion - throughout this thread. You've been lucid dreaming since childhood, and you're now in your 40's. It is second nature to you. You've already admitted that, as a kid, you did have limits. You didn't have such complete control, and you've learned to overcome that. Many of the people who are new to lucid dreaming don't have that luxury of so many years of trial and error. They don't have the luxury of having started "bending the rules (physics/logic/etc)" at an early age, so they have a lot more to deal with, in terms of treating the dream world differently than they do the waking world. Hell, even I've been lucid dreaming for as far back as I can remember, and I still don't have perfect control. If I wanted to label myself, I'd say I'm pretty advanced, but "perfect" is a label I wouldn't dare touch. Most of my failures come from doubt - especially when trying something new. Flying is a constant bother to me, because the concept of gravity constantly lingers in the back of my mind. Even though I'm aware that there is no gravity in dreams, my scatter-brained nature simply cannot keep the thought from bubbling to the surface, and all it takes is that single, stray schema to make me begin to sink.

Anxiety, doubt, insecurity, an adherence to waking-world laws; all of these things are reasons that people have limits. You have to consider how long you have been doing something, before you claim surprise at how other people can't do it as well as you do. It would be a lot like a kung-fu master of 35 years coming into a school of 2-10 year students, and being surprised that none of them could beat him. That's the main reason people reacted to your post the way they did.

Anyway, I'm glad to have you around, and I'm looking forward to hearing some of your experience. I hope you start up a dream journal, and consider helping others in their attempts.

Make yourself at home!

well peopel who dream lucid young they probable can remeber the first few times and it takes a wile to master so you probable masterd it and dont even remember XD

Pretty interesting, the reason you can LD daily is because you do not excess the power given to you. As you mentioned before, you do not alter your dream but instead you follow your own dream pattern (thoughts). If I were you, I would start interrogating everyone in an LD as I do now.

Dreamviews is made for people who wish to achieve LD and who are already experiencing it.
On the contrary, by saying "I don't understand you guys at all", you directly attacked the whole community by saying "I can LD on a nightly basis" unlike the rest of you. The rest of us are still trying and trying, discouraging them is a very bad thing anyone could do, what they need now is encouragement and not the opposite.

My 2 cents : I believe you can LD, but i doubt you can do it on a nightly basis. There is a limit one could LD, 3-4 per week is reasonable, but 7 days a week/12 month's that's too much of a fairy tail. If your words are indeed true, you would have the knowledge and experience no one in this board has throughout your lucid dreams. Not only would your consciousness expand, but you would have direct relationship with your subconscious. In my own LD's, I get a huge amount of experience, and I experiment on them to expand my experience further.

The other reason why you could have LD's might be because your wasting time not exploring them as you should. You just wander around in them without seeking a deeper meaning in them. It was obvious from your first post, that you have a limited knowledge of the potential of LD's. Powers and the rest are just the small additional fingers you get in LD's. At your age which should be no less than 40+, you wasted 30 years? of daily Lucid dreams. That is a big price you payed there for having them as you claim.

Originally Posted by L

Pretty interesting, the reason you can LD daily is because you do not excess the power given to you. As you mentioned before, you do not alter your dream but instead you follow your own dream pattern (thoughts). If I were you, I would start interrogating everyone in an LD as I do now.

Dreamviews is made for people who wish to achieve LD and who are already experiencing it.
On the contrary, by saying "I don't understand you guys at all", you directly attacked the whole community by saying "I can LD on a nightly basis" unlike the rest of you. The rest of us are still trying and trying, discouraging them is a very bad thing anyone could do, what they need now is encouragement and not the opposite.

My 2 cents : I believe you can LD, but i doubt you can do it on a nightly basis. There is a limit one could LD, 3-4 per week is reasonable, but 7 days a week/12 month's that's too much of a fairy tail. If your words are indeed true, you would have the knowledge and experience no one in this board has throughout your lucid dreams. Not only would your consciousness expand, but you would have direct relationship with your subconscious. In my own LD's, I get a huge amount of experience, and I experiment on them to expand my experience further.

The other reason why you could have LD's might be because your wasting time not exploring them as you should. You just wander around in them without seeking a deeper meaning in them. It was obvious from your first post, that you have a limited knowledge of the potential of LD's. Powers and the rest are just the small additional fingers you get in LD's. At your age which should be no less than 40+, you wasted 30 years? of daily Lucid dreams. That is a big price you payed there for having them as you claim.

hmm you seem jealous of him

lol no, you misread what I wrote. It is my opinion nothing more nothing less.

If I do continue on this forum to share my experiences I believe I'll just be met with more jealousy and even resentment. And, it seems some don't read a whole thread and then make judgemental comments based on partial reading. For instance, I never said I was lucid every night and yet some have commented that they don't believe me that I'm lucid every night. Well, I never said that I was.

As far as control, I'm sorry that others haven't attained what I and I'm sure others have.

Yes, when I'm lucid I know I'm dreaming; that's being 'lucid' right?

When I know I'm dreaming I can control (it seems) anything I want. Why is that hard to believe? I don't look at this world the same way others do, and I realize that as I read these comments. Since I have an open mind and enjoy changing physics in dreams I don't limit myself in a dream.

For example, last night I was in LD and decided to take a character with me on a journey of changing physics. So, I picked them up and carried them with me as I flew and passed through walls. They passed thru with me. It was easy and fun. This while I took them on a tour of a old grand hotel that I decided to purchase and renovate.

At first while we would fly around the halls (why walk, it takes longer) I would open doors without touching them, but then I thought why not just go thru them since I'm dreaming and it would be less involved (easier).
Overall, it was an entertaining experience.

I guess the best way for some to understand me and the way I LD is to simply read these lyrics 'Pure Imagination' from Leslie Bricusse and Anthony Newley (written for the film Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory):

Come with me
And you'll be
In a world of
Pure imagination
Take a look
And you'll see
Into your imagination

We'll begin
With a spin
Traveling in
The world of my creation
What we'll see
Will defy
Explanation

If you want to view paradise
Simply look around and view it
Anything you want to, do it
Wanta change the world?
There's nothing
To it

There is no
Life I know
To compare with
Pure imagination
Living there
You'll be free
If you truly wish to be