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      What do you call a dream that continues after you wake up?

      I once had a dream that I saw a man continuously falling in a bottomless pit. His screams were so unbearable to listen to (like fingernails on a chalkboard kind of terror) that I couldn't stand it. I realized it was Lucifer (in the future) when reading the account in Revelations about Lucifer being cast into a bottomless pit for 1000 years.

      What is weird is that I woke up from this unpleasant dream and walked into another room to try to get away from the thing I just saw (to calm down). I was completely awake and had the lights on in another room. But, to my amazement I was still seeing and audibly hearing this vision. The screaming of Lucifer's torment was audible in my ears. I finally prayed to God to take this away and it stopped. Note: I had no sympathy for Lucifer and his torment. It was just an unpleasant sight and thing to hear. Very strange experience. What would you call this? This was not a drug induced hallucination (I don't do drugs or even drink alcohol).
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      You had a hallucination..it happens alot after a person first wakes up, but sometimes it can last a few minutes.

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      Either it was a false awakening, or you were still very tired and hallucinating (you don't need drugs to hallucinate *cough* dreams *cough*) Either way, I don't think this god fellow would be able to change the chemical content and electrical currents in your brain. Next time this happens, drink some milk. It has placyborhytinal in it which inhibits hallucinations for a couple of hours.

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      Is this type of forum comprised of mostly athiests or are there others who believe in a creator as I do? The above comment brought this question. I'm not criticizing anyone's lack of belief in a being greater than themselves, just asking a question.

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      I'd actually say it's split down the middle.

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      If half of the members here are athiests then that is quite a large percentage compared with the world's percentage of athiests which is about 2.5%. Why is a forum about dreams made up so much by athiests? Interesting.

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      I'm Christian, and most of the members, i would say are not atheist, just this forum has many beliefs. LDs have nothing to do with religion unless you want them to.

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      This forum attracts all sorts of people with different beliefs and faiths. But I think the most common is atheism, just have a look at the extended discussion forum.

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      so to clarify you had that experience where you realized you were still asleep, but when you "truly" woke up everything was normal? if so it was a false awakening
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      Could be one of two things:

      1) An FA (False Awakening dream);

      2) A "Waking Dream"; a little-known and little-understood phenomenon where one "hallucinates" the dreamworld super-imposed over and/or around the edges of one's "waking reality". Anecdotally reported by a very few as a somewhat shocking side effect of LDing, usually (but not exclusively) after many years of LDing.

      Castaneda wrote about it, BTW.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Eddy View Post
      If half of the members here are athiests then that is quite a large percentage compared with the world's percentage of athiests which is about 2.5%. Why is a forum about dreams made up so much by athiests? Interesting.
      Because the educated learn to question. We have access to the internet, meaning we are fairly well off, and have access to education.

      Also, why do you have no sympathy for Lucifer? Were you not taught to love your enemies? And if evil didn't exist before Lucifer, and everything comes from God, then God made Lucifer evil. It is ironic that a country which prides itself on its glorious revolution would feel not the slightest sympathy, or even understanding for a man who dared to question.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
      Because the educated learn to question. We have access to the internet, meaning we are fairly well off, and have access to education.

      Also, why do you have no sympathy for Lucifer? Were you not taught to love your enemies? And if evil didn't exist before Lucifer, and everything comes from God, then God made Lucifer evil. It is ironic that a country which prides itself on its glorious revolution would feel not the slightest sympathy, or even understanding for a man who dared to question.
      Blind faith is an ironic gift to an omnipotent creator.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Eddy View Post
      What would you call this?
      I've had a handful of these. I usually just call it "residual imagery/audio." I had one, in particular, where I was dreaming that there were a bunch of people outside my bedroom window, looking to jump me. Even after I woke up and sat up in bed, I was hearing them talking and snickering outside my window, for a few more seconds. I just kinda sat there staring at my window until the sound faded away, and I finally got the courage to step out of bed.

      Quote Originally Posted by Eddy View Post
      If half of the members here are athiests then that is quite a large percentage compared with the world's percentage of athiests which is about 2.5%. Why is a forum about dreams made up so much by athiests? Interesting.
      Because this forum is also comprised of many 'scientifically-minded' people. That is not to say that the 'scientifically-minded' are inherently atheists, but I believe that there are more atheists who adhere to the scientific method of analyzing the world around them, than there are people of faith who do the same.

      There are plenty of religious people around here, though.
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      To get into Lucid drreaming in the first place requires an artistic and open mind..those two things often lead to someone being an atheist or at least agnostic. As for myself, i see no reason to believe in any gods. I do, however, believe science is the future of humanity, not religion.

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      i mean, personally, i don't see any reason not to believe in god. That is all you have to do to get into heaven (if you believe in it) i mean, to me it is worth it, but really, it is up to you. there is always the question of if my religion is right, and some people don't believe any of them, and that is their choice, as long as we don't try to push our religions on each other, it is all good. The only "bad" religion is that which harms others. Just don't get offended when someone doesn't believe what you do.

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      You define bad as harming others. Does that include:

      The crusades: Christianity
      Witch burning: Christianity
      Oppression to women: Islam and Christianity
      Persecution of "infidels": Islam and Christianity

      Can some mod close this thread? It's way off topic, and we atheists and theists are unable to stop ourselves from arguing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Conkt View Post
      You define bad as harming others. Does that include:

      The crusades: Christianity
      Witch burning: Christianity
      Oppression to women: Islam and Christianity
      Persecution of "infidels": Islam and Christianity

      Can some mod close this thread? It's way off topic, and we atheists and theists are unable to stop ourselves from arguing.
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      false awakening, if you were still in a dream. If you actually were awake, it could have been a hallucination.

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      There's a thread about this elsewhere on the forum which contains an article about various stages of consciousness, microsleeps, and how when people first wake...they can still basically be in a dreaming-like state for awhile and experience such things. The lines between sleep and wake are becoming more and more blurred.

      You were not blessed with a disturbing and seemingly pointless religious vision that only prayers to God could manage to make go away.

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      i mean, personally, i don't see any reason not to believe in god. That is all you have to do to get into heaven (if you believe in it) i mean, to me it is worth it, but really, it is up to you.
      That's Pascal's wager -- there have been some very good rebuttals of it. IMHO, actually there are very good reasons to not believe in "god", but as you said, it is up to each of us.

      I would say that this type of thing has happened to me often -- the carry-over from a dream to real life, especially the sounds from a dream. This usually happens with really intense dreams. More often, the feelings and emotions from dreams linger after waking, so I suppose it isn't really that surprising that it happens sometimes.
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      First of all, I didn't try to start a religious debate. It was a snide comment about God that someone left as a response to my experience. In a dream forum that should not be permitted.

      Secondly, God did create Lucifer and Lucifer was at one time perfect and loving. But, he got lifted up within himself and pride ruined him and he became evil by his own free choice. God even gave him an opportunity to humble himself in love, but Lucifer rejected God (his creator) and all that God stood for including love and peace.

      Adam and Eve had the same free choice and unfortunately ruined this earth for the rest of us. And, just because something bad (the Crusades) was done in the name of God, doesn't mean He had anything to do with it. God gets blamed for a lot when it is man's stupidity that should be blamed.

      It is people's choice whether they want to believe in God, but don't criticize those of us who do. Why criticize and make fun? What offends you? Why does it get under your skin? Some athiests are so opposed to any mention of God that they even have to make a comment about someone's dream on a dream forum of all things. Now that is a closed mind.

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      I just don't happen to like watching my dad, myself and about 20 of my relatives be 'disowned' by my grandfather when he switches churches. Neither do I like people gasping in horror and running for the weapon shack when I reason that, gee, perhaps the pregnant mother of Jesus wasn't a virgin!

      It's not belief I have a problem with, in fact I would have loved to be raised believing in God - talk about comfort and security that only Bob Marley and heaven can bring -, it is organized religion that I have issues with. People making money off of other people's good will.


      Back on topic; how long did the waking-dream last for? And what was 'waking up' like? As in, how did it end?

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      The proper term for still experiencing a dream after you wake up is Hypnopompic Imagery. I don't know why, but these are generally unpleasant. I've never heard of anyone waking up to see a naked woman standing there, it's always shadow people or something.

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      Eddy...no one criticized you. Try to be a little less defensive about your religious beliefs, especially on an online forum such as this. As well, it's probably not a good idea to assume that everyone that doesn't share your beliefs is automatically atheist (which I'm not) and closed minded (which I am absolutely not). When you stop viewing people's comments as a personal attack and become more confident in your own beliefs you will realize there is no need to be so defensive or to make incorrect generalizations about others. Again, I'm not criticizing you, just trying to give you some general advice that will likely make your stay here more pleasant.

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      Eddy, dreams don't have to have anything to do with religion.

      It doesn't matter if you have a religious beliefs about what dreams are, or if you have a scientific belief of what they are.

      Hell, scientific people even believe in beyond dreaming type stuff.

      And, I don't see why there should be different rules about religion from any other forum. I do think people should respect religious people an ANY forum, don't think it should be any different just because it has to do with dreams, because like I said, dreams aren't a specific thing to religion.

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