Scale of Lucidity

**Rosewhip137** · 05-13-2010 02:09 AM

How often have you heard the term "semi-lucid" or "Complete/total lucidity" used as a way to express how aware, awake, or lucid one was in their dream?

While every single one of these experiences are still each a bonafide lucid dream, we all must admit that some LDs are a bit more fulfilling than others.

What I would like to accomplish is a brief range of what I would like to call "Levels of Lucidity" wherein each level is given a description of what qualifies it to be that level.

What I hope to achieve from this is a more universal list, and easily referenced way to describe our LDs to others so they can see how lucid we really were.

Now, my very rough...

...Levels of Lucidity:

Level 1. Vaguely aware that oneself is in a dream, not enough lucidity to alter any dream events or exert any control over the environment. Dreamer follows the dream plot as normal, just now aware it is a dream. Linear thinking is near impossible. The concept of waking up is not considered.*Often one refers to a semi or partial lucid after having experienced this level of lucidity*

Level 2. Definitely aware that one is dreaming, more vivid and detailed than normal. Exerts basic control over environment, but yet does not stray from the dream plot. Still not aware that the dream will eventually end. Lower level thinking is present.*Also considered a semi-lucid*

Level 3. Solid awareness that one is dreaming, mostly stable and vivid. The dreamer usually breaks free from the dream plot at this level. Basic tasks are fulfilled with moderate dream control. (Normally satisfying basic needs such as sex or initial thoughts) Difficult tasks are not usually completed at this stage. Dreamer is aware that this is not an everlasting reality.

Level 4. Dreamer has a firm belief that they are dreaming. No longer restricted by the initial dream plot. The oneironaut freely explores the realm of existence now aware of oddities or abnormalities of the dreamscape. Dream control is very strong and barely limited. Slight memory of waking intentions (Dream Tasks). Dreamer is aware that they will wake up after short amount of time.

Level 5. The dreamer achieves full consciousness within the dream. Has a mental state nearly identical to waking life and linear thinking is plentiful. Dream control is now limitless and the dream plot no longer exists. Now able to recall any waking intentions they had previously. Dreamer has a complete understanding that they are on a time schedule and will awaken to find themselves in their own bed shortly. *Often referred to as Complete Lucidity*

This is just layout of what I believe to be different states of consciousness or lucidity that we have throughout different lucid dreams. What I ask of you is to create your own set of Levels and post it here, while giving feedback to my levels and others until we can come to a consensus on what we believe to be the most accurate rendering of the Levels.

Thank you very much for helping me with this,

**horsey101** · 05-13-2010 02:21 AM

Love the idea of lucid levels, semi-lucid is not really descriptive enough.

**Kraftwerk** · 05-13-2010 02:33 AM

A lot of people are gonna jump in and say "YOUR LUCID OR YOUR NOT" and leave.

Anyways, I like the scale. I'm level 3 most of the time.

**Rosewhip137** · 05-13-2010 02:39 AM

horsey101: Yea, it really irks me when I have no idea what they meant by "semi" that could be an entire range!

Kraft: Yea, I definitely considered that when writing this. That's why I included the line about them all being "bonafide LDs" regardless. I just want better descriptions.

**Snowy Egypt** · 05-13-2010 02:41 AM

YOU'RE LUCID OR YOU'RE NOT

One of our members, Arby, made a Levels of Lucidity thread. It's around here somewhere. It goes into really good detail.

**Puffin** · 05-13-2010 02:52 AM

I use lucidity levels in my dream journal. My definitions as to what makes each level unique is slightly different, however, and I have a scale of 1-10 as opposed to 1-5.

Nice work on the scale.

**JenMarie** · 05-13-2010 03:49 AM

I like this, could make describing things much easier.

It's also nice to know that the only real lucid I've ever managed was a Level 3, so I guess that's not so bad.

**Puffin** · 05-13-2010 03:52 AM

I'm usually a four. I really want to accomplish a 5 though!

**FifthElement** · 05-13-2010 04:05 AM

A scale might be good idea to simplify things.

(just my opinion) I do not like the theme on "control" in every level. I tend to go with the flow of my dream time & my dreaming messages.
I do not attempt to control every dream when lucid - This helps me stretch my mind-wings into new realms of experience. I am usually very lucid, but I would only be a Level 2 on your scale.

when it comes to being semi-lucid, it may just mean one needs to have more self-awareness.

**Clyde Machine** · 05-14-2010 01:51 AM

I'm usually one of those folks who does the "it's lucid or it's non-lucid, pick one", but I see that most of my lucid dreams would be probably level 4/4.5, and only one being level 5, meaning I truly felt like I was living inside it.

**Delwind** · 05-14-2010 02:38 AM

im usually lvl 4,and sometimes level 3, rarely lvl 5

**Serenity** · 05-14-2010 03:01 AM

I have to agree with FifthElement. According to your scale, I usually hover at a 2. For me, it depends on the plot. I generally really enjoy what the dream is already giving me, and I'm not big on completing goals every single time I become lucid. However, if I catch a dream sign, and not much is happening around me, I usually break into a 5.

My Levels (since you asked!)

Pre-lucid
Something reminds me about dreaming, however, I don't reality check, or even think about the remote possibility that this could be a dream also

Lucid
I am consciously aware that I'm dreaming. However at this stage, I could get stuck in the plot (ex. I'm being chased. I become aware that I'm dreaming, but I think to myself, "Once I find a safe place to hide, I'll work on stabilizing and then getting control of the dream!") or I could choose to stay with the plot. Even though I'm lucid, I might have some issues with control at this level (ex. I get pulled down from flight by gravity, or a certain magical spell won't fire properly). If I want to break from the plot, I could choose to do that too. I don't generally remember my goals at this stage.

Full lucidity
I'm consciously aware I'm dreaming, BUT, I also realize the full implications of that knowledge. I'm being chased? Who the eff cares, if I ignore them, they disappear. Flight? Not a problem! My dream mental state seems to mirror that of my awake one. Goals are easy to remember in this state, as well.

**louie54** · 05-14-2010 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

One of our members, Arby, made a Levels of Lucidity thread. It's around here somewhere. It goes into really good detail.

I think I may actually know what you are talking about. It was scaled on percentages divisible by 10. Like 50% was like semi-lucid, 70% was lucid and some control, 100% was fully lucid and fully in control blah blah or something. I found it kind of confusing.

Anyway, thanks for sharing

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