Thread: Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)

Originally Posted by enak101

How do you think this will work with polyphasic sleep? I have three ninety minute naps so WBTB doesn't really work but I don't know how quickly into it I go REM. Would be nice to have a zeo.

This works very well with naps. Some of the guys are high-school students on our forum and they even manage to OBE with SSILD while napping between classes on their desks!

Might give it a try then, doesn't really take that long to cycle through it four times.

15 seconds each times 3
45 seconds per cycle
45 times 3 is 135 seconds so a bit over two minutes to do it.

Get to attempt it three times a day heh.

Originally Posted by enak101

Might give it a try then, doesn't really take that long to cycle through it four times.

15 seconds each times 3
45 seconds per cycle
45 times 3 is 135 seconds so a bit over two minutes to do it.

Get to attempt it three times a day heh.

If you do it that way then you will fail for sure. The 15-second is just a reference, which should not be carried out precisely. The key is to do the exercise in a "lazy" fashion. You WANT to forget time, you WANT to lose count, and you WANT to drag this as long as possible! You should NEVER count in your head!

This is just awesome! It makes me lose focus fast, and I have some crazy vivid dreams after!

Oh, yeah I forgot that point about being exact heh. Just meant roughly but I guess it would take longer. Thanks, going to sleep in fifteen minutes and I'll attempt it.

During my WBTB last night, I stayed up for about 20 minutes on Dreamviews before going back to bed (that was probably a mistake.. I don't know though). I went through about 6 cycles. My mind started wandering a little but not that much. I decided to roll over. I did about 2 cycles, and then stopped doing them. I kept tossing and turning until I finally went to sleep.

I guess I lost some sleep last night. Maybe I was too awake?

I tried this halfheartedly last night, after bad recal l and no lucids for months. I had a very long lucid and a FA last night, extremely pleased!

Originally Posted by Moondreamer

I tried this halfheartedly last night, after bad recal l and no lucids for months. I had a very long lucid and a FA last night, extremely pleased!

Wow, some crazy success stories already with this technique. Makes me wonder if I should scrap what I've been working on and just do this, hehe.

I guess I'm just trying to find a balance with this technique. If I do it one way, I barely get through one cycle, my mind wanders and I fall asleep. If I do it another way, I focus on it too much and after at least 6 cycles it takes me forever to fall asleep.

Originally Posted by Moondreamer

I tried this halfheartedly last night, after bad recal l and no lucids for months. I had a very long lucid and a FA last night, extremely pleased!

Did you fall asleep while doing the cycles? Or did you do them, roll over and fall asleep?
Oh and, how long did you stay up in your WBTB?

Sorry for the questions, I just want to learn from other people's successes

I missed my alarm going off, so instead of 5 hours and 30 minutes of sleeping, it ended up as 6 hours and 30 minutes, which I think was what made me fail. I did the technique as best as I could, focusing about not focusing. My mind wandered a lot, which was good. I think I just slept too much. Would SSILD work after about 3 hours of being awake? (in a nap..)

I used this technique for three nights.
The first two nights, nothing special happened.
The third night I was to tired to make the exercises and only stuck with concentrating on the lights behind the eyelids. But soon I started to get a strange feeling, getting to a full SP (not just some weird feelings, a whole fully developed SP, I couldn't move) This then resulted to the second WILD I had in my life.

Originally Posted by blubbdavid

I used this technique for three nights.
The first two nights, nothing special happened.
The third night I was to tired to make the exercises and only stuck with concentrating on the lights behind the eyelids. But soon I started to get a strange feeling, getting to a full SP (not just some weird feelings, a whole fully developed SP, I couldn't move) This then resulted to the second WILD I had in my life.

Congrats! Once you get a hang of it you will have many lucid moments ahead of you which I'm sure of! Please try to adhere to what resulted the success -- timing wise as well as how you executed the technique.

Originally Posted by Sydney

I missed my alarm going off, so instead of 5 hours and 30 minutes of sleeping, it ended up as 6 hours and 30 minutes, which I think was what made me fail. I did the technique as best as I could, focusing about not focusing. My mind wandered a lot, which was good. I think I just slept too much. Would SSILD work after about 3 hours of being awake? (in a nap..)

I'd say at least 5 hours of sleep is optimal. 3 is not sufficient .

I tried this again last night. I went to bed at 12:00am I woke up at 5:00am. I could not perform the technique. I was too tired/couldn't concentrate. I would look at my eyelids, then get distracted or perhaps almost fall asleep but I kept waking back up and starting over, so I was never able to stay away for the whole 4-5 sets.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

I'd say at least 5 hours of sleep is optimal. 3 is not sufficient .

I meant like, waking up for the day, waiting three hours, and then performing the technique in a nap.

Originally Posted by Sydney

I meant like, waking up for the day, waiting three hours, and then performing the technique in a nap.

That should work

I got lucid again last night
I got back in bed after my WBTB (5 hours and 30 minutes), and did 5 cycles I think. My mind kept wandering which was good. But, after I got comfortable again, it took me FOREVER to fall back to sleep. Literally, I was probably laying there/tossing and turning after the cycles for about an hour.

Even though it took me a while to fall asleep, I was still lucid anyway. It was a weird lucid though (lucid from the start of a dream), at one point I thought I came back into SP, but I think I was dreaming then. It was weird.

Any tips on how I can fall asleep faster? I've always had troubles with falling asleep.

Originally Posted by Sydney

I got lucid again last night
I got back in bed after my WBTB (5 hours and 30 minutes), and did 5 cycles I think. My mind kept wandering which was good. But, after I got comfortable again, it took me FOREVER to fall back to sleep. Literally, I was probably laying there/tossing and turning after the cycles for about an hour.

Even though it took me a while to fall asleep, I was still lucid anyway. It was a weird lucid though (lucid from the start of a dream), at one point I thought I came back into SP, but I think I was dreaming then. It was weird.

Any tips on how I can fall asleep faster? I've always had troubles with falling asleep.

Did you feel tired after you wake up in the morning? If not, then you might be experiencing really convincing false awakenings. Please take a close look at the "Common causes for loss of sleep" section of my original post. That should explain most scenarios. Good luck!

Do you mean to say that I could have been in an FA last night, trying to fall asleep while I was already "sleeping"?
Ok. I will.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Do you mean to say that I could have been in an FA last night, trying to fall asleep while I was already "sleeping"?
Ok. I will.

Lol, yes that's what I meant. It's actually quite common

Kinda creepy how real it felt then.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Kinda creepy how real it felt then.

Yes it can be extremely realistic, even the way the bed sheet rubbing against your skin, the person snoring beside you, and etc. The rule of sum is, if you consistantly find yourself not being able to fall asleep, or you suddenly wake up after doing the exerice, you should perform an RC regardless how certain you are.