Thread: Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)

Yes, you are. That's what you are supposed to do.

Last week every time I tried the method I had one. This week I've been screwing up every night on the WBTB part so I haven't had one, but I have great faith in the method. A friend I recommended it too (a complete LD noob, just started trying) had he first LD on her second try with this.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Your welcome.
You know, now that I think about it, I may have missed some very realistic false awakenings. I usually do an RC after every time I wake up, but sometimes I do forget!
I've been kinda slacking on attempting SSILD this week - was so tired during the week I never woke up mostly. :/ Well mostly, I wake up for WBTB, do SSILD, fall asleep - and then before I know it, my alarm shocks me awake for the morning.

Do you think my recall could have something to do with it?
I sometimes just forget about SSILD while doing it, making my mind wander and then I fall asleep. In other cases, I can't fall asleep afterwards.

You need to have more rest. Attempting LDs without being fully rested often will yield minimal result... regardless of the technique. I suggest you take a break. Go to bed earlier, and forget about any exercise. Do this for a couple of days then resume the exercise. Also you might want to delay your WBTB... maybe to 6 hours.

Okay I'll rest for a couple of days and see how it goes.

I have translated this method into Slovak language and post it on Slovak LD/OBE forum. One of the guys who tried it, had 5 LD's on the first try and 3 LD's on the second. Between this 2 tries he also had one OBE where he was first time in one year of trying able to fly out of his house and had a beautiful experience.

Another one tried it and experienced SP for the first time in his life, but got too excited and couldn't do too much about it and fell into sleep.

Third one tried it and had LD.

Another two tried it, one was able to see some lights during the cycles and wasn't sure what to do with it and after all didn't get lucid and the last one had no success as well.

I have tried it for the first time, but i was too sleepy and didn't even finished my first cycle and fell to sleep. Than i didn't tried it any more because i going to sleep too late and therefor i have no much time to do it. I have to start to go sleep much earlier.

Guys are saying that this is one of the best methods they have ever tried.

Originally Posted by Shaman1982

I have translated this method into Slovak language and post it on Slovak LD/OBE forum. One of the guys who tried it, had 5 LD's on the first try and 3 LD's on the second. Between this 2 tries he also had one OBE where he was first time in one year of trying able to fly out of his house and had a beautiful experience.

Another one tried it and experienced SP for the first time in his life, but got too excited and couldn't do too much about it and fell into sleep.

Third one tried it and had LD.

Another two tried it, one was able to see some lights during the cycles and wasn't sure what to do with it and after all didn't get lucid and the last one had no success as well.

I have tried it for the first time, but i was too sleepy and didn't even finished my first cycle and fell to sleep. Than i didn't tried it any more because i going to sleep too late and therefor i have no much time to do it. I have to start to go sleep much earlier.

Guys are saying that this is one of the best methods they have ever tried.

That's great for them! And I hope they will have continuing success! ^^

P.S. What's the forum called?

It's 3oko.sk it would be translated as 3th eye.sk

3 hours ago I had the greater lucid dream I ever had with this technique
It lasted about 25 minutes and I had full lucidity and a lot of control, I got to do everything I tried to.

I didn't use it only, I'm always doing RC's, auto-suggestion before sleep and MILD.

@Sydney: Try it:
-After about 6 hours of sleep you wake up, try to recall the last dream and write it in your DJ
-Get up and drink some water and go to the bathroom, at least in the bathroom, try to turn a light on, it will make you a little less sleepy and you will have a better attention while doing SSILD.
-Go back do bed and do the cycles, don't expect to see, hear of feel anything (I almost never do and it works for me), actually don't think anything, just pay attention on the sense, one after each other.
-Don't do more than 4 or 5 cycles even if you don't notice anything different, it may frustrate you. Do the 5 cycles and believe it will work
-Don't forget of doing RC's after "waking up". In the dream I had today I looked at my hand 3 times and they were normal, but the digital clocks were working strange and I realized it was a dream.

Hope it will work for you

I sleep on the same bed as my brother, so I read this and decided to try it about an hour ago it is now 7 PM. I would focus on seeing the darkness in my eyelids, and I couldn't see anything. So after a bit I moved to my hearing, and all I can hear is the fan turned on I don't know if this is good or bad to have that fan on. Then, I focused on all the sensations and felt nothing. I tried looking through my eye lids and as I am doing this I don't notice it but I am slowly beginning to daydream without even noticing. When this happens I can see images that intensify and I can hear imaginary audio while going deeper into relaxation. I eventually reach my 4th and my brother moves around.. I didn't read the last step so I didn't know there can not be any distractions, maybe that's why I can never fall asleep easily. Eventually, I think to myself that I have done enough find a comfortable position on the left side of my body and drift away. Next thing I know I am in a different dream that I was trying to go back into but didn't work. I watched some videos of Michael Jackson inspired dances and I think this had an effect on my dream. We are in a talent show and there is an enormous crowd cheering and clapping. Everyone does the same routine but differently but the audience doesn't seem to care. Eventually, my partner and I go on stage and we do a real quick move I went to the left and slid a little and he went to the right. Biggest applaud I heard and the host of the show ask how did we learn to do that and my partner said that it wasn't planned. Huge applause and then the dream ends .

I am very eager to try this method of an ld. But my concern is I don't want to have an out of body experience it is said that those are just lucid dreams as well but like SLEEP PARALYSIS I like to avoid such things at all cost. Is there any way of making sure I have either a false awakening or just going lucid in my dream? And I have never been much of a reality check person how do I go lucid after false awakening?

Fedor, try to make RC's at least when you wake up and you will catch the FA's if they happen.

I had only few LD's and in the one I had yesterday I experienced a FA.
Basically I "woke up" with a very loud noise coming from out of my room, I looked at my hands about 3 times and they were normal, I almost gave up on thinking that that was a dream, but I saw two digital clocks, and they were different from each other, it made me completely lucid. I flew up trough the ceiling and when I got out I was in a completely different place.

I experienced "Sleep Paralys" two times with this technique, but they weren't real, I just dreamed I was having SP.

Go on and try this technique, its really awessome and almost gave me another LD this morning.

That's awesome Rubens! okay, I'll try what you did. I think I'm waking up way too early
Will post the results tomorrow!

That's awesome Rubens! okay, I'll try what you did. I think I'm waking up way too early
Will post the results tomorrow!

Oops double post!

Yes, maybe it is the problem, the times I tried after about 4 or 5 hours of sleep didnt give good results.

The times that gave results were when I did just like I told you.
I sleep 00:00, wake up 6:00 with my brother waking up to go to college, take 30 minutes to write my dreams in the DJ, do the cycles and get the LD about 7:30-8:00 am

I really hope and believe it will work for you. It gave me a semi-lucid today.

I tried this last night. I did several cycles. Several times I forgot where I was and either carried on or started again. On my 5th cycle at the 'bodily awareness' stage I had - for just a fraction of a second - a sudden dip in my conscious. I came out of quickly and hoped it was a FA, but RC showed it wasn't. Still waiting for my first success with SSILD.

Don't want to be too negative, but if there's a new technique out that works for 99% of people, I'm always in the frickin 1% it doesn't work for.

But you know that SSILD won't give you a LD just after doing the cycles right ?
You do them and go to sleep normally and the LD will come.
And don't forget of being persistent in RCing after waking up, as I said before, in the last FA that I experienced I did the "look at hand" RC three times and it didn't work, only when I looked at a digital clock I could realize I was dreaming.

Originally Posted by Rubens

But you know that SSILD won't give you a LD just after doing the cycles right ?
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Yup.

I'll be sure to make a habit of RCing to catch FAs.

I woke up after 6 hours and found out I was WAY too tired to keep my awareness up.
Even though I went to the restroom with the light on, my eyes were soo heavy. I was nodding off to sleep right there lol.
I think it's because I took some Benadryl right before I went to bed.
I was laying there in bed constantly tossing and turning before I knew what I was doing, and fell asleep.

Well, I love this technique xD

Had another one today, a little short because I believe it was in the end of the REM period and I also got a little excited (and scared for a moment).

Originally Posted by Rubens

Well, I love this technique xD

Had another one today, a little short because I believe it was in the end of the REM period and I also got a little excited (and scared for a moment).

That's awesome!

Last night I didn't wake up at all. I really have to work on waking up naturally.. do you wake up by an alarm, Rubens?

Somedays yes Sydney, my brother studies at the morning and his alarm wakes me up too about 6:20 am(we sleep in the same room).
But my body just accustomed to waking up after the dreams and I always notice that I woke up.
I think that there is no problem with waking up by alarms to this technique, but if I don't do anything before starting the cycles I can't pay attention and fall back to sleep too short.

Next time you try, try to recall the last dream and write it in your DJ before doing the cycles, it will make you more aware while doing the cycles.

Originally Posted by Rubens

Next time you try, try to recall the last dream and write it in your DJ before doing the cycles, it will make you more aware while doing the cycles.

Alright, will do.
I have some time on my hands in the morning so I can sleep (and hopefully wake up before 6 hours) longer and thus have more chances for SSILD.
Not sure how it works later in sleeping though.

Here's my (positive) experience with this:

It seems that doing it "lazily" like the OP mentions seems to be quite important.

When I first started trying this I focused too much on it, like I would when meditating. After a few nights I started trying it differently, cycled without thinking too much about it, had an LD after falling asleep, noticing that the pants I was wearing aren't right, I was wearing something else before, I assume I was able to notice this because of SSILD.
Yesterday and today I had 4 LDs (2 yesterday, 2 today) after SSILDing, when cycling, my mind would wander into other random thoughts, and I just calmly started cycling again when noticing so. I think the goal here is to be lazy indeed, don't be afraid if your mind starts wandering into random thoughts, but your mind just has to calmly be reminded to cycle from time to time, without thinking too much about it. Some cycles were even interrupted by random thoughts since I was doing it so lazily. I think this works because after a while your mind will "wander" except that wander is actually a dream and when you remember to cycle again, you realize you are dreaming; that's how it feels to me at least.

Oh also, I WBTB before SSILDing. (I always WBTB for anything)

Want to get back into Lucid dreaming , havent had time to concentrate on it due to school but with summer here now i have plenty of time . I am intruiged by this method , going to give it a few shots this week. Wish me luck!

I've been waking up after 6 hours, but I'm falling asleep too quickly when I do SSILD. It's weird, because when I used to wake up after 5 hours of sleep to do SSILD, I was pretty awake through the whole thing, and had trouble getting back to sleep.

But now since I'm waking up after 6 hours, I can barely stay awake for at least one cycle! It's like it's reversed.
I'll see what I can do tonight.