Thread: Dutchraptor's Deild Guide - Become an Ld god.

Originally Posted by LucidRaider

I'm gonna try this tonight, combined with MILD / DILD elements.
I really want to do this..

It's great that everyone is so determined. I hope you get it quickly. It took me three months of consistent Deild attempts to work to this level, but seeing as you have some LD logged already you shouldn't have too much trouble.
Just remember to stick to it, don't lose hope because of a few fail attemps because if you can get this right you may aswell be on the the path to mastering Lucid dreaming.

Hey thanks for the great guide! A couple questions:

1) I always have a problem with saliva building up and needing to swallow. Will swallowing ruin my chances?

2) I seem to never be able to enter sleep paralysis (consciously) and I've woken up after 6 hours with an alarm to rry to WILD and i have full control of my body. On some nights, I naturally wake up after maybe 3-4 hours and I have full control of my body. Does this mean i won't be able to do this?

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

It's great that everyone is so determined. I hope you get it quickly. It took me three months of consistent Deild attempts to work to this level, but seeing as you have some LD logged already you shouldn't have too much trouble.
Just remember to stick to it, don't lose hope because of a few fail attemps because if you can get this right you may aswell be on the the path to mastering Lucid dreaming.

I want to marry you.
Thank you for that.
Your so amazing, and encouraging.

Hey DUTCH I got it to work! After waking up a couple of times without moving I didn't feel the vibes. I think I am too used to them coming instantly when I remember to even do DEILD. But earlier on today I woke up felt the vibrations. Once they stopped I 'rolled out' and I was in a dream! Your guide worked perfectly! Hope I can do this again tonight I am excited to go to bed now lol

Great work dutchraptor! This is actually one of the best guides out there. Read through it a few times...and all I can say is; I approve of every word.

Respect, Tucane

Every time i try this, i always wake up before the alarm goes off >

Lol I think this is natural though. Your mind catches on to when the alarm goes off and wakes you up beforehand. Just use different times for the alarm instead of the same time. Next time try an earlier time then the original I think this should work

I'll try this. I've had an extremely long dry spell and hopefully it will be broken tonight. :3

Nice tutorial! I'll be sure to give this a try! Thanks

Originally Posted by Tucane

Great work dutchraptor! This is actually one of the best guides out there. Read through it a few times...and all I can say is; I approve of every word.

Respect, Tucane

Thanks for the nice words Tucane . Hope it works for you.

Originally Posted by bobberski

Hey thanks for the great guide! A couple questions:

1) I always have a problem with saliva building up and needing to swallow. Will swallowing ruin my chances?

2) I seem to never be able to enter sleep paralysis (consciously) and I've woken up after 6 hours with an alarm to rry to WILD and i have full control of my body. On some nights, I naturally wake up after maybe 3-4 hours and I have full control of my body. Does this mean i won't be able to do this?

1)If you can swallow without your mind even noticing it then you might be able, sometimes it takes a few attempts to not get the saliva build up. I'll look online to see if their are any tips I can include in the OP

2)The difference between Wild and Deild is that in wild you are starting from block one while when you Deild right you are already extremely close to entering SP and you are tired. Just give it a try by not moving at all and you will feel it.

Originally Posted by xpin2winx

Every time i try this, i always wake up before the alarm goes off >

That shouldn't make a difference, infact if you can wake up without the alarm altoghether it would be really great.

Originally Posted by Daredevilpwn

Hey DUTCH I got it to work! After waking up a couple of times without moving I didn't feel the vibes. I think I am too used to them coming instantly when I remember to even do DEILD. But earlier on today I woke up felt the vibrations. Once they stopped I 'rolled out' and I was in a dream! Your guide worked perfectly! Hope I can do this again tonight I am excited to go to bed now lol

Thats great man, let us know if you have anymore. Imagine that after only 11 or so LD's you are already succeeding in an "advanced" technique like this. Well done

AHA! I woke up after my dreams last night and recognized the blackness in my eyelids as I woke up, But forgot to not move, BUT IT WAS A SUCCESS! can't wait to try again tonightttttt! ;D

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

1)If you can swallow without your mind even noticing it then you might be able, sometimes it takes a few attempts to not get the saliva build up. I'll look online to see if their are any tips I can include in the OP

2)The difference between Wild and Deild is that in wild you are starting from block one while when you Deild right you are already extremely close to entering SP and you are tired. Just give it a try by not moving at all and you will feel it.

Thanks I'll do my best!

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Thanks for the nice words Tucane . Hope it works for you.

It's confirmed as working for me. I'm certain this will be a perfect fit for my LD-nights. I always start my WBTB by emptying a full-blatter (haven't wet my bed so far) before WILDing, (alarms wake up my GF) then it's all DEILDs from there. The success of my DEILD:s has always been a bit random, almost like flipping a coin. I feel as that's about to change.

Thanks, Tucane

I agree with the imagination/recall point, but for me to deild i sometimes don't wake up or wake up semi-conscious and my dream continues while i fall asleep again. But i just did something awesome recently > WBTB/DEILD i want to see if anyone can do this and actually get off bed lol. In order to do this you have to be good at meditation and keeping your mind state at hypnosis level once off bed.

OK, so I'm having the same difficulties with DEILD as I've had before.
For one, I think I'm setting my alarm too loud, and I'm getting startled as I wake up. Also, it feels like I'm not totally aware of what I'm trying to do when I wake up, and end up falling right back asleep.
Nothing a little trial and error and mantra won't fix, this time around I'm determined to become quite adept with DEILD

Originally Posted by hathor28

I agree with the imagination/recall point, but for me to deild i sometimes don't wake up or wake up semi-conscious and my dream continues while i fall asleep again. But i just did something awesome recently > WBTB/DEILD i want to see if anyone can do this and actually get off bed lol. In order to do this you have to be good at meditation and keeping your mind state at hypnosis level once off bed.

Then it is no longer a Deild, we are harnessing the fact that our body (not our mind) is a sleep when we Deild, if you were to get out of bed it would not be a "dream exit initiated lucid dream". Infact the whole point to keep an aware state of mind, not one that is is still in a dreamy hypnotized one?

Originally Posted by LucidProdigy

OK, so I'm having the same difficulties with DEILD as I've had before.
For one, I think I'm setting my alarm too loud, and I'm getting startled as I wake up. Also, it feels like I'm not totally aware of what I'm trying to do when I wake up, and end up falling right back asleep.
Nothing a little trial and error and mantra won't fix, this time around I'm determined to become quite adept with DEILD

With dedication you will do it right, like you said mantras will do you wonders. Share your success if you happen to make any progress

I wasn't as successful as yesterday. But I think it was because I went to bed 2 hrs earlier than usual and that messed things up. I did managed to be still when I woke up though. And I was sorta successful when at one point I opened my eyes and saw a dream scape but I still felt awake in my bed then I blinked and my dream scape was gone. I think I was experiencing bi-location, being in two places at once.

Originally Posted by LucidProdigy

OK, so I'm having the same difficulties with DEILD as I've had before.
For one, I think I'm setting my alarm too loud, and I'm getting startled as I wake up. Also, it feels like I'm not totally aware of what I'm trying to do when I wake up, and end up falling right back asleep.
Nothing a little trial and error and mantra won't fix, this time around I'm determined to become quite adept with DEILD

I had the same problem, when the alarm goes off I forget that I'm trying to DEILD and reach over to turn it off. >.<

Oh i see.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Then it is no longer a Deild, we are harnessing the fact that our body (not our mind) is a sleep when we Deild, if you were to get out of bed it would not be a "dream exit initiated lucid dream". Infact the whole point to keep an aware state of mind, not one that is is still in a dreamy hypnotized one?

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Then it is no longer a Deild, we are harnessing the fact that our body (not our mind) is a sleep when we Deild, if you were to get out of bed it would not be a "dream exit initiated lucid dream". Infact the whole point to keep an aware state of mind, not one that is is still in a dreamy hypnotized one?



With dedication you will do it right, like you said mantras will do you wonders. Share your success if you happen to make any progress

I agree 100%. I use Autosuggestion and Mantras to wake up after my dreams. They work great. C:
Gonna try this tonight, Hope I succeed ^^

I thought deild was based on continuing a dream, no matter how you do it. ? Or is that a dild?

Originally Posted by hathor28

I thought deild was based on continuing a dream, no matter how you do it. ? Or is that a dild?

No. A DILD is realizing you are dreaming WHILE you are dreaming. DEILD can be used to re-enter a dream but it can also be used as just a technique to become lucid.

dutchraptor, nice tutorial. DEILD has been my goal for about two weeks now, and im glad to see a decent tutorial.
For me, a mantra is enough to realize when i wake up after a dream, but not enough to keep me from moving. Any suggestions?

Im going to try this everyday until i get it. I woke up this morning at 730 was very disappointed. My earphones were out of my ears and i didnt wake up from my alarm. Going to try a longer/louder alarm