Thread: Forced Brief Awakening (FBA) Induction Technique - Early Testing

@Venryx
Before generating random all odd or all even random number, did you tried with increasing odd, or even numbers (or decreasing), like "2" "4" "6" "8" or "9" "7" "5" "3" "1" ?
I just received the last updated version of RemDreamer pro, which can play a recorded message.
I made an audio file from a text to speech website, a synthetic female voice says "9" "7" "5" "3" "1". I added some reverb and a Fade IN volume ramp so that the sound comes progressively.
I then recorded this audio file through the RemDreamer mike and it will play through a flat little speaker that will be pressed against my skin behind my right hear.
Since I sleep with earplugs the sound is kind of amplified by bone conduction.

My goal is to be briefly awoken while on REM sleep to practice DEILD, or to have a FA where I can verify that all the numbers are odd, as a RC.
I was just wondering if the fact that the numbers are not random will make it too easy for the brain to trick me.

Originally Posted by Kaan

@Venryx
Before generating random all odd or all even random number, did you tried with increasing odd, or even numbers (or decreasing), like "2" "4" "6" "8" or "9" "7" "5" "3" "1" ?
I just received the last updated version of RemDreamer pro, which can play a recorded message.
I made an audio file from a text to speech website, a synthetic female voice says "9" "7" "5" "3" "1". I added some reverb and a Fade IN volume ramp so that the sound comes progressively.
I then recorded this audio file through the RemDreamer mike and it will play through a flat little speaker that will be pressed against my skin behind my right hear.
Since I sleep with earplugs the sound is kind of amplified by bone conduction.

My goal is to be briefly awoken while on REM sleep to practice DEILD, or to have a FA where I can verify that all the numbers are odd, as a RC.
I was just wondering if the fact that the numbers are not random will make it too easy for the brain to trick me.

No, I haven't tried any other number patterns so far. The even-odd approach sounded nicest to me, so I've been sticking with that until I've evaluated it fully.

As for your suggested approach, my guess is that it would still work a good portion of the time, but not quite as reliably as pure random. This is because I've noticed in dreams that if you anticipate things, or even think about anticipating it, your brain can figure out what you're referencing and then add it to the dream before your memory is even consciously retrieved. Thus, if you start hearing numbers, you might start retrieving the pattern memory, letting your subconscious catch on and start following it as well before you can catch its interference. But, I've also noticed that my subconscious is not that consistent/professional, so even if it starts doing a pattern, I'd guess that most of the time, it would still add random stumbles and insertions if you listened long enough. It's just, it won't "mess up" quite as reliably as if it were forced to do both the pattern plus randomization for each entry, I would guess.

By the way, I am still going strong at my "RVP v2" experiment -- the prompts continue to play every 60 seconds (when I'm in my room).

The results so far have been somewhat promising, though it has not reached a breakthrough point yet like I have (and still am) hoping. I've had a good number of times where the prompts have triggered awareness either in a dream, or just as I'm waking up (still having dream imagery, but so light that my gaining lucidity causes it to vanish). I am recording the date/time as well as the "current prompt count" whenever I gain a lucid from the technique. (I will provide the results later once I have completed the initial evaluation -- which is either when I give up, or hit a breakthrough point.)