Maybe you've had it all before, and don't want to get hurt again. |
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What do you think about this? Is it depression? Is it not normal to be too calm and patient and not care when bad things happen or to be unaffected. Is it lack of empathy? |
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“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” - Albert Einstein
Maybe you've had it all before, and don't want to get hurt again. |
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I'm a believer in the middle way. But once people start preaching that you should be completely detached and strive to raise above emotions, then theyve fallen into one of the dualistic extremities that just leads no where. |
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God I love your posts Juroara!! Why isn't there a Love button? |
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I don't think this a thing to be looked at logically but rather felt. |
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Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake
Sorry I didn't mean to derail the thread subject! |
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Last edited by Darkmatters; 09-02-2011 at 02:42 AM.
The point is not to avoid feeling but to be aware of it. Also remember that feeling is a somewhat technical term in traditional Buddhist thought. It's one of the links in the law of dependent origination. It basically consists of assigning a label of positive, negative or neutral to each perception. This in turn leads to craving for pleasant sensations and aversion from negative ones. The end goal is equinamity. There's a story of a monk that was fleeing a tiger. He climbed down a cliff on a vine. A tiger appeared at the bottom of the cliff. There was a tiger snapping at him from both ends. Two mice appear and start gnawing at the vine. He sees a strawberry and picks it to eat with his spare hand. Knowing that he's going to die, he might as well enjoy the strawberry. They're both just two independent perceptions. There's no reason for one to interfere with another or let either one disrupt your balance. |
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So why did Buddha teach Detachment and Inner Stillness, it almost seems like the exact opposite of Passion , excitement, and energy. I think maybe he meant to remain detachment from emotions? Like just let them come and go? Not dwelling on one emotion....I think this is it... Or to embrace deeply in any emotions that you have and let them go when you're done with the situation..this would make sense |
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Last edited by Majestic; 09-02-2011 at 03:58 AM.
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“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” - Albert Einstein
Heh, I probably would have tried to bite the strawberry in half, use the halves to lure the mice, then throw them to the tigers to distract them so I could get away... but I do actually get the point of the story. |
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Calmness is part of me. It comes from experience that calmness has always upper hand compared to more passionate emotions. It must not be mixed with complete detachment however. I sincerely agree with Juroara with the balance idea. I have sometimes cited the law of extremes and I believe in my heart that in the end nothing good comes out of extremety. I see that being calm is the middle road between passive and active. I can be calm and still keep my passion. You should never cling in a feeling. They are like water of the river that flows inside you. Acknowledge them, but don't let the stream take you. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
I don't think Majestic was asking about his own condition - I think he was just starting a conversation about the subject in a neutral way. |
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Good call on that. Solitude is far better word. I sometimes mess with words ( especially with prepositions, but hey luckily there are people who often clarify ). Also, I don't know why I did think OP would necessarily feel personally this way.. one of these mornings.. one more cup of coffee before I go to the forums. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
There are times you need to be emotionless and detached. Emotions are often the enemy of logic, and if you want to be a logical rational person, then you must be able to separate emotion from you so you can see things how they really are. Especially when it comes to fear and hate, both can really cloud your judgment. |
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Wow, lots of good responses in this thread. |
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To man belongs only his actions and never the fruit of them. This is detachment. It doesn't mean you don't feel. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
The man who has learned the Self is separate from the body, the senses, and the mind, and has fully known him, the soul of truth, the subtle principle - such a man verily attains to him, and is exceedingly glad, because he has found the source and dwelling place of all felicity. The Self...is the omniscient Lord. he is not born. He does not die. He is neither cause nor effect. This ancient One is unborn, imperishable, eternal; though the body be destroyed, he is not killed. Smaller than the smaller, greater than the greatest, this Self forever dwells within the hearts of all. When a man is free from desire, his mind and senses purified, he beholds the glory of the Self and is without sorrow. Having given up the false identification of the Self with the senses and the mind, and knowing the Self to be Brahman, the wise, on departing this life becomes immortal. |
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