Archetypes. Messengers from the unconscious. |
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Perhaps they deserve two different threads since their roles in the universe are probably very different. But they're cast in the same light which is basically the only mythological creatures that survived mankind's transition to monotheism. You can claim that lots of mythology "survived" monotheism such as vampires and witchcraft but Angels are the only mythological being or superstition to survive monotheism on the good team. Every original symbol that predates the church became and emblem of Satan. Demons, whatever their actual origin was, became soldiers of Satan. Angels, whatever the truth behind their legend, became soldiers of God. These creatures were not invented along with Monotheism, they already existed as superstition and were glombed onto Monotheism's dualistic dichotomy. |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 09-20-2011 at 08:52 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Archetypes. Messengers from the unconscious. |
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Angels = Tooth fairies. |
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Angels = Good |
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Demons are Angels also but fallen ones. They are basically unclean spirits who are opposed to God and His works. |
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Elaborate. I mean I know that's what they teach you at Sunday School but the contradictions are a bit much for me. If an angel has the will to oppose God, how is it different from a human? If Satan, for instance, rebelled against God and got sent to hell as punishment, then why does he rule hell? Why is he still active on earth causing gays and shit? |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
There is no difference. They are both imaginary creatures. |
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You need to elaborate on what God is, what his works are, what about his works these angels are opposing, etc... |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
You didn't ask who or what God is initially now did you? Your thread is titled "What are Angels and Demons". I've already explained who and what they are. Now as far as who or what is God, Here let me google that for you. |
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Here it comes.... wait for it... |
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Right but there are many levels of understanding of this God. Take a look at this http://www.cook-greuter.com/draft/AQ...r%20%20v10.pdf |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
ok and? |
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They're imaginary supernaturalist constructs sometimes used to explain phenomena in the absence of scientific rigor. Also the title for a book by Dan Brown that I've never read. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
Blueline hit the nail on the coffin. |
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What I'm saying is your perception of demonology appears to be ruled by mythology and has little basis in people's actual experience of demons. You're reiterating scripture while ignoring the science. While your opinion is valid, I'm looking for a more Integral approach to demonology. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I'm sorry but we will bump heads here because we view the bible differently. The bible may be myth to you, but it's not a myth to me. It's more of a legend of events imo, so I draw reference of the origins of demonic entities from scripture. I find truth in many authored accounts and verses applied throughout scripture. I can't speak for the terminology of demons as used by other cultures or religions but I'm explaining from the perspective of Christianity and Christianity has adherence toward biblical scripture. I'll give you a more concise example of what I mean. |
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They are your positive or negative feelings that have taken a form that you can recognize and understand. |
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I am all I am nothing. I am the door opener and the door closer.
You are dreaming....
My opinion is that Angels are thought-forms created by the goodness in one's heart (subconiously),and Demons ore thought-forms created by the vileness of one's heart (again,subconciously).Though this is only my interpretation that I think is most correct out of the explanations I have previously thought of,hehe. |
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In an Ocean~
Things dreadfully impossible to put into forum posts in language. |
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